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Unread 02-12-2010, 01:48 PM
 
Location: hawaii!
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i think it's always harder to move somewhere alone than w/ a support system of family or friends. i think you'll do fine b/c u have a job & can hopefully make some friends there & u just have to get out there & meet new ppl. i think the situation is what you make of it. i am moving to honolulu in june (w/o a job right now) and i think i'll be fine. yeah, i will miss my friends & family back home but i figure within a month or two i'll have new friends & hopefully new activities to keep me busy. good luck w/ your move! you'll be fine!
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Unread 02-12-2010, 05:51 PM
 
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Default keolamauloa horror story

Ok we found this place keolamauloa.com which turned our visit to Hawaii into a nightmare.

Upon moving in we were met with the distinct feeling that we were being spied upon.

Although we joked about it at first, we soon found the uncomfortable feeling, was not without basis.

We soon began receiving notices and emails daily. The bathroom fan was not to be used for more than 5 minutes. The solar curtains we used to decorate our windows with were not in line with the spirit of the storefront and had to be removed immediately. The ultimate irony was when we were asked to respect the "privacy" of her daughters family house, which sat in the middle of the property directly behind the house we shared with the landlord, essentially making the entire grounds off-limits to us except for the entrance to our apartment.

The landlord then confiscated the outdoor rug we decorated our front door with, without so much as asking or consulting us, stating how inconsiderate it was of us to do such a thing without asking permission first.

Our visit to Hawaii was a depressing stay with "mommy" because of this, and not because of anything to do with how beautiful the weather was, or because we were mistreated for being 'haole', or anything else.

The fact is we are not white and felt quite comfortable around the locals. The landlord, on the other hand, was an old transplant from the mainland. She should have therefore known better the standards which were expected from her in regards to our rights as renters.

It didn't help our experience when her son confided in us that someone had died in that apartment.
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Unread 02-12-2010, 08:46 PM
 
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1)What made you decide to move to Hawaii

To take a sabbatical.

2)What did you bring with you (kid(s), car, furniture, dog)

Suitcase full of clothes.

3)Did you have a job already when you moved

No

4)Where was the first place you lived in...how much did it cost

Maui, in 1999, $600 for a 500 sq ft 1 bedroom ohana (downstairs unit of house).

5)What was your anxiety level like when you moved here

None. I was excited and happy to take a break from work.

6)Were there differences that you found interesting or noteworthy

Pace is very slow. People do not generally operate as efficiently and are less businesslike, which is quite nice actually. But when you need or want something, you do not always get it -- which is something one has to prepare for. It causes frustration in a lot of New Yorkers. For me, I'm ok with the laid-back lifestyle...I was happy to get away from the rat race!

7)When did you start making friends

It took 3 years of living in Maui before I made any friends that has lasted up to the present. People on this island live in towns that are very far away (relatively) from one another and so they tend to stay and shop in their area. They also tend to keep to themselves and their family or circle. Few people branch out of their own group to embrace new people.

It is the most difficult place I've ever lived to form friendships, and I have lived in a lot of places all over the mainland and world. It's not that people are not friendly, they are just NOT interested in putting in the effort. A friend of mine complains about this a lot. She is very outgoing (I'm less so, so it isn't as bad for me) and complains that people on Maui never want to do anything. They prefer doing things by themselves or stick with their own family members.

The few friendships I've formed here are very good. But it wasn't easy by any means. Also, people come and go. Everything is transitory. Everybody is sincere though.

8)Did you move from your first place

Oh yes. I rent only and have moved many times for different reasons. Prior to the real estate meltdown, people were buying and selling like crazy. So I had to move in a couple of times because the landlord was selling and the new owners created a worse situation. The last few times I moved was due to problems with the housing itself: Dangerous MOLD for one. Another time the place was brand new, and the wood was reeking of chemicals (fire preventive stuff) that caused me headaches and allergies. I thought I had some kind of virus. But felt better every time I was outside. So after only 1 month, I moved. I broke the 1 yr lease and the owners who lived in N. Dakota were nice to let me off. I cleaned the whole place, even the air conditioner, inside and out. It was dust free but the chemical from the wood was making me ill.

9)Did you stay in your first job...or are you still looking

No I didn't.

10)How did you manage the first 3 months...being away from old friends etc.

I was so thrilled at moving to paradise that I didn't even care. I was at the beach every day diving into waves.

11)In retrospect was it a good decision and would you do it again

I don't know. I know that it was something I had to do. But I'm no longer a diehard. Once I went from tourist to resident, life changes. You have to deal with the mosquitoes. Baby centipedes crawling on your bed. Scorpions running up your arm. Also, brush fires because some idiot is experimenting with fireworks behind your house. I rarely go to the beach anymore. It just doesn't feel as new or exciting. Maybe I'm jaded. Paradise has revealed its ugly teeth in the form of creepy crawlies, expensive rent and groceries (oj at $8.99 a gallon) and gas.

Also, the sunny weather gets really old. I wish I could dim the bright day like I do with the computer screen using the F7 button, but I can't. After a decade of wrinkly leathery skin from the sun, I need rehab in a grey cloudy place. Also, I'm tired of hearing people commenting on the beautiful weather. Who cares?! If it's sunny or cloudy, I'm not affected emotionally whatsoever. In fact, when it rains, it is a welcome relief.

I do like it when the sun dries things out so it doesn't get so damp. Otherwise it would be very humid here. I also have to remember that the grass isn't always greener. I've learned that!

I do miss snow and the cold weather, not that I'd want it all the time. Just the variety is something that is NOT found here.

People who want to move here have NO IDEA that there are all kinds of critters that will really BUG you. Oh, and 5 species of geckos that poop all over and fall on your head or arm. Yes, they are easily startled. Sometimes you end up slamming the door on them and there's the dead body you'll have to get rid of. It really is trying.

The summers are getting hotter and longer. In 2009, the heat began in April and lasted through October. It was miserable, waking up to soaked sheets several times a night. Most places do not have air con. Ceiling fans don't do the job. So you have to keep the windows open all the time: letting in all the wonderful noise like the billions of dogs barking, cats fighting (grrrreoooow!), and traffic noise, etc. Whenever I go to the mainland, I am amazed how quiet it gets so that I can sleep very well. BECAUSE THE WINDOWS ARE SHUT!

These are just a few of the things that tourists and visitors have ZERO INKLING of. The devil is in the details, and there are lots of these annoying details that are very aggravating.

Tropical climates: NOT for me anymore. I guess it's a case of getting a severe 10 year dose of uber-Maui reality. I wish I didn't move here so at least I'd know where to go for vacation. Vacation places should stay that way.

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Unread 02-12-2010, 09:22 PM
 
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Oh, and don't get me started on some of these manicured-lawned places like Maui Meadows. We're talking MAJOR MOSQUITO infestation. A naturally arid, desert-like landscape artificially transformed into a lush green place becomes mosquito central. You literally have to RUN from your house to your car, hopefully avoid allowing one little pesk from entering inside and bite you while you drive.

It's the stuff nobody talks about that are aggravating. Don't worry, I'm looking to leave Maui and just can't decide where. Definitely very open to gloomy, cold climates. How do you think all these famous English novels were written?
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Unread 02-12-2010, 11:33 PM
 
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Oh, and don't get me started on some of these manicured-lawned places like Maui Meadows. We're talking MAJOR MOSQUITO infestation. A naturally arid, desert-like landscape artificially transformed into a lush green place becomes mosquito central. You literally have to RUN from your house to your car, hopefully avoid allowing one little pesk from entering inside and bite you while you drive.

It's the stuff nobody talks about that are aggravating. Don't worry, I'm looking to leave Maui and just can't decide where. Definitely very open to gloomy, cold climates. How do you think all these famous English novels were written?

I hear that "Becca8377" is looking for a roommate.

Syracuse, NY in the dead of winter should fit you quite well...

-V
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Unread 02-14-2010, 03:49 PM
 
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I hear that "Becca8377" is looking for a roommate.

Syracuse, NY in the dead of winter should fit you quite well...

-V

That sounds nice. Christmas would feel real. It would be fun to wear long sleeves again. Maybe even a fashionable coat!

Hay fever in the spring and getting electrically zapped (from dryness) are 2 things I wouldn't look forward to. The rest is cozy.
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Unread 02-14-2010, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Was in Western New York but now in Hilo Hawaii
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That sounds nice. Christmas would feel real. It would be fun to wear long sleeves again. Maybe even a fashionable coat!

Hay fever in the spring and getting electrically zapped (from dryness) are 2 things I wouldn't look forward to. The rest is cozy.

Snow? A great place to visit! the rest of the time it needs to stay in a snow globe!!!!
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Unread 02-14-2010, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Kauai
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Man, I am so sick of long sleeves and long pants and blankets and sweaters. I thought I moved to Hawaii to get away from those things. This morning it was 56 degrees at 8:30 a.m. and I was freezing! I do generally love the winter weather here, but it'd be nice to be able to sleep without a frozen nose for a change. (Freezing... but I can't go skiing. What a ripoff.)

And I feel so lame for complaining too, I mean my friends on the mainland just don't want to hear it. (And I don't blame them.) So thanks for listening.
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Unread 02-14-2010, 05:58 PM
 
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Man, I am so sick of long sleeves and long pants and blankets and sweaters. I thought I moved to Hawaii to get away from those things. This morning it was 56 degrees at 8:30 a.m. and I was freezing! I do generally love the winter weather here, but it'd be nice to be able to sleep without a frozen nose for a change. (Freezing... but I can't go skiing. What a ripoff.)

And I feel so lame for complaining too, I mean my friends on the mainland just don't want to hear it. (And I don't blame them.) So thanks for listening.

Yes, it is kind of lame to be complaining about Hawaii-cold ;-)

One thing I'll definitely miss after I move to Hawaii is the opportunity to ski... but that's what vacation is for!


-V
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Unread 02-14-2010, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Was in Western New York but now in Hilo Hawaii
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Yes, it is kind of lame to be complaining about Hawaii-cold ;-)

One thing I'll definitely miss after I move to Hawaii is the opportunity to ski... but that's what vacation is for!


-V
Aight lemme splain this!

cold is cold! I'm in western NY you lake effect show cold last week it was -7 but the good thin is I have a heater in my house and its +68 . My wife is in Hilo it was +51 the other night. Hmm tha'ts not all that cold compared to -7.
The issue is when its cold here I have a heater when its cold there its cold there for the most part its cold inside and outside most of the homes don't have heaters and the windows and vents don't shut off all the way and when its windy out the outside temp is the same as the inside so I can and do feel for the cold and want warm.
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