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Old 09-02-2013, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Tennessee/Michigan
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It is one of the most common components of emergency medicine: an intravenous bag of sterile saltwater.

Luckily for anyone who has ever needed an IV bag to replenish lost fluids or to receive medication, it is also one of the least expensive. The average manufacturer’s price, according to government data, has fluctuated in recent years from 44 cents to $1.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/he...&emc=rss&_r=1&
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Old 09-02-2013, 10:19 PM
 
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It depends on the region but mine last Feb was 300 for bag. That includes all the hookup and nurse doing it. Hospitals charge by what overall cost based on charges many never pay for especially emergency treatment. After insurance or Medicare that cost drops as that is just what is bill ;not what is paid. About as much as a simple fix with cheap paRT on a apppliance now days when you think about it.
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Old 09-02-2013, 10:38 PM
 
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Hospitals charge by what overall cost based on charges many never pay for especially emergency treatment.
It's impossible. Let's say bag+hooks up+nurse time + overhead =$25 (way too generous estimate). Hospital charges $500. Assuming benevolent nature of the medical profession (Total Expenses)/(Total Earnings)=500/25=20. In other words, for a hospital to justify this outrageous rip off, it must spend $20 on the people who don't pay for every $1 it receives from the paying "customers". 20:1 ratio just don't exist. Uninsured avoid emergency rooms (and ambulances), because emergency personnel is very good at charging arbitrary sums of money and doing nothing helpful, especially if one has a chronic condition that poses no immediate life threat.
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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DH was in the hospital overnight in July this year. Spent several hours in the ER hallway (not in a room) on a bed. Had a CT scan of his head. Was then transferred to a bed upstairs. Hospital bill alone was $20,600. He received 5 bags of potassium added to saline. No other meds. No other treatment. MD saw him for 5 minutes in the ER and 5 minutes the next day to discharge him. $20,600.

Now, all you whiners who don't want to pay for insurance, do you have that tucked away in your back jeans pocket?
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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No news to me. When I paid health insurance claims as far back as the 60's it was not uncommon to see charges for a few aspirin going for $50.00 for a days supply which came out to three per day.
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:50 PM
 
Location: in a house
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DH was in the hospital overnight in July this year. Spent several hours in the ER hallway (not in a room) on a bed. Had a CT scan of his head. Was then transferred to a bed upstairs. Hospital bill alone was $20,600. He received 5 bags of potassium added to saline. No other meds. No other treatment. MD saw him for 5 minutes in the ER and 5 minutes the next day to discharge him. $20,600.

Now, all you whiners who don't want to pay for insurance, do you have that tucked away in your back jeans pocket?
Why did they do a CT then keep him overnight?
BTW: The potassium was added to a bag of saline - the way you described would've killed him.
Just sayin'
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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He passed out while talking to some guys installing an electric line across our property. They called the ambulance. It's standard procedure to do a CT of the head when you pass out. Yes, they put it in saline, but kept adding it as a piggyback to the same bag of saline. The good thing is he has an Advantage plan and it won't cost us anything. The bad thing is the taxpayers are picking up the tab.
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Old 09-11-2013, 10:40 PM
 
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Likely he suffered from dehydration and that can lead to a brain stroke;thus the scan. No; the advantage plan pays the cost not taxpayers .Advantage plan will pay much less. Potassium is given because a lot of fluids can lower it when given.
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Old 09-12-2013, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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Likely he suffered from dehydration and that can lead to a brain stroke;thus the scan. No; the advantage plan pays the cost not taxpayers .Advantage plan will pay much less. Potassium is given because a lot of fluids can lower it when given.
He's diabetic, hadn't eaten yet, and it was hot. Plus his MD had put him on a diuretic blood pressure medication and not given him supplemental potassium. When he was admitted his potassium was 2.6 with normal being around 4. Low potassium causes heartbeat irregularities.

The Advantage plan is paid by Medicare who in turn is paid by the taxpayers. No matter how you spin it, the taxpayers are picking up the tab.
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:25 AM
 
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Although I do consider over $500 to be high for a saline bag..

Would you have preferred they tossed him a bag of saline, and told him to go ahead and put it in himself? Just like in the case of auto mechanics, lawyers, secretaries, and disk jockeys - you're not really paying for the bag. You're paying for the labor and overhead involved in getting the contents of the bag safely and appropriately into your husband's veins. So there's the doctor who orders it, the orderly who gets it out of supplies, the nurse who gets it, the desk staff who monitors it, the rounds nurses who check it every time they walk into his room, the hazwaste company who takes the sharps away after the IV is removed, the cleaning staff who takes the empty bag down to the dumpster (or whatever they do with it), the insurance they're required to carry just in case the IV is put in wrong and your husband suffers and sues the hospital as a result of bruising, the OTHER insurance they have to carry in case your husband tries to walk carrying the IV pole and trips over it and breaks his leg..

and so on and so forth. All of these things result because of that one bag. Or, as I said, they could just toss him the bag and tell him to hook it up himself.

A hundred bucks - two hundred bucks - though it SEEMS crazy - is probably reasonable. Five hundred - I dunno. But then, I'm not a hospital administrator or a medical accountant. Are you?
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