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Old 10-24-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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I heard that if you want the subsidy to lower your premiums you MUST use the Marketplace. But, if you buy direct from the company or broker, you can claim the subsidy on your tax return. So it may be if you want it now, to lower the premiums, you go through the marketplace (exchange). If you’re willing to forgo the subsidy immediately and not take the reduced subsidized premiums from the beginning, you can buy the approved plan yourself and claim the tax credit when you file your tax return. Has anyone else heard something like this?
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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^^Actually, that sounds correct. If people can afford the upfront high premium and wait for the tax subsidy, they could use that avenue. Then, instead of projecting 2014 income, the IRS would have actual figures on which to calculate the subsidy.

So, my preceding post should be amended to say "if you want the reduced/subsidized premium NOW, you need to purchase the insurance through an exchange."
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Old 10-25-2013, 02:17 AM
 
Location: Foothills of Northern California
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If you qualify for Medicare or Medicaid you CAN'T use the exchange to sign up. If you qualify for a subsidy you have to sign up through the exchange--do do otherwise would just be flat out foolish.

Nationwide Insurance data breach affects 1.1 million people - NBC News.com

Insurance Company Files Lawsuit Against Schnucks for Data Breach

Just because its "smaller scale" doesn't mean that they are immune to data breaches...
I never said they were "immune" to data breaches.


And there is no possible way you can state flat out, not knowing the circumstances, of what is foolish for anyone.
Also the rolling eyes smiley is not necessary, except maybe for your own conclusions about other people's circumstances.

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Old 10-25-2013, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Foothills of Northern California
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[color=black][font=Verdana]Once again, the breech was by a State run, owned and administered Marketplace. It is not a breech within "Obamacare" as you put it.
It is a breach under OBAMACARE. This State exchange wouldn't even exist without OBAMACARE.
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:51 AM
 
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I never said they were "immune" to data breaches.


And there is no possible way you can state flat out, not knowing the circumstances, of what is foolish for anyone.
Also the rolling eyes smiley is not necessary, except maybe for your own conclusions about other people's circumstances.

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It is foolish to pay more for something when you don't have to....
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Old 10-25-2013, 08:39 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I heard that if you want the subsidy to lower your premiums you MUST use the Marketplace. But, if you buy direct from the company or broker, you can claim the subsidy on your tax return. So it may be if you want it now, to lower the premiums, you go through the marketplace (exchange). If you’re willing to forgo the subsidy immediately and not take the reduced subsidized premiums from the beginning, you can buy the approved plan yourself and claim the tax credit when you file your tax return. Has anyone else heard something like this?
That's another source of confusion. I'd read different things about that subsidy. One source said it could only be claimed as a tax deduction so claimed when one filed income taxes ( apparently those who don't make enough money to file taxes are actually exempt from the individual Obamacare mandate).

But I was reading on the Florida Blue site that subsidies for individuals/families are paid directly to the insurance company and lower the premiums paid for that insurance.

Who knows? It does seem that in order to qualify for a subsidy, one does have to go to the exchanges, though. Otherwise, one can get their insurance directly from the company.
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Old 10-25-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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That's another source of confusion. I'd read different things about that subsidy. One source said it could only be claimed as a tax deduction so claimed when one filed income taxes ( apparently those who don't make enough money to file taxes are actually exempt from the individual Obamacare mandate).

But I was reading on the Florida Blue site that subsidies for individuals/families are paid directly to the insurance company and lower the premiums paid for that insurance.

Who knows? It does seem that in order to qualify for a subsidy, one does have to go to the exchanges, though. Otherwise, one can get their insurance directly from the company.
That is ONE way they can be paid...and the easiest I would think for most people.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I think we will bypass the exchange due to hacking risks and just stick with our insurance plan that will meet the ACA standards. It only almost doubled from $600 to $1,100 with a $6,000 deductible. It will pinch but not as bad as the quotes from Kaiser earlier that were $1,675. Only 3 more years.......
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