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Old 08-30-2014, 06:16 AM
 
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If a person misses a lot of work due to severe depression, poor ADLS, poor sleep where the patient is sleeping 20hrs a day and not showing up on time or at all to work, is this taken into consideration when applying for ssdi?

Specifically, if the patient has been fired from his last 3 jobs because of this, is this weighted as heavily or less or more than the medical record?

The patient who I'm concerned about does not have a comprehensive medical record because he is lax in his mental and physical health care due to his illness.

Will the fact that his illness prevents a comprehensive med record ironically keep him from proving he is unable to work?
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:32 PM
 
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Yes, but if they see a doctor NOW and see a therapist now, and take medications and have prescrition records, it will help. Much depends on how the self reports of daily living are completed and if they are thorough, and upon an independant medical examiner's opinion when meeting the applicant.
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Old 08-31-2014, 12:40 AM
 
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Yes, but if they see a doctor NOW and see a therapist now, and take medications and have prescrition records, it will help. Much depends on how the self reports of daily living are completed and if they are thorough, and upon an independant medical examiner's opinion when meeting the applicant.

When are these completed? The application is in except for the med record. Does the application not go fwd w/out the med record submission?
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:50 PM
 
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If a person misses a lot of work due to severe depression, poor ADLS, poor sleep where the patient is sleeping 20hrs a day and not showing up on time or at all to work, is this taken into consideration when applying for ssdi?

Specifically, if the patient has been fired from his last 3 jobs because of this, is this weighted as heavily or less or more than the medical record?

The patient who I'm concerned about does not have a comprehensive medical record because he is lax in his mental and physical health care due to his illness.

Will the fact that his illness prevents a comprehensive med record ironically keep him from proving he is unable to work?
It would be smarter to talk to a social security lawyer than to try to get advice on an internet forum. My best advice to this patient is to find a good social security lawyer, retain his services, and ask him these questions. The quality of advice is likely to be better.
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Old 08-31-2014, 11:14 PM
 
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The patient who I'm concerned about does not have a comprehensive medical record because he is lax in his mental and physical health care due to his illness.

Will the fact that his illness prevents a comprehensive med record ironically keep him from proving he is unable to work?
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When are these completed? The application is in except for the med record. Does the application not go fwd w/out the med record submission?
From everything I've read on this board on SSDI applications, even with the best and most comprehensive and thorough medical documentation, SSDI approval remains difficult at best. Almost 70% of initial applications are denied per a recent statistic cited on C-Span a few weeks ago. This doesn't mean some of these people don't get benefits eventually, but many die while waiting. That said, medical documentation is critical. Without medical documentation, the application will languish or be denied.

You may want to read these:

does anyone know how long ssi disability takes to get an approval ? (last 10-20 pages should give you an idea)

SSD, How long to get a determination after the 1st denial? - last post on this thread also shows an initial denial, in spite of uncontrovertible evidence of disability, with finally an apprroval.

Help! What should I do to start this private disability claim? I'm overwhelmed.

What are some words or phrases to use when applying for disability insurance?

Sounds to me from your original post this person needs professional help in properly completing his application. He needs to see an attorney specializing in SSDI matters. Many won't take a client until they've experienced at least one denial. It's possible some of these attorneys, however, have paralegals on staff who can help assemble the necessary records, since the person you're referring to doesn't have them.
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Old 09-01-2014, 07:01 AM
 
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If a person misses a lot of work due to severe depression, poor ADLS, poor sleep where the patient is sleeping 20hrs a day and not showing up on time or at all to work, is this taken into consideration when applying for ssdi?

Specifically, if the patient has been fired from his last 3 jobs because of this, is this weighted as heavily or less or more than the medical record?

The patient who I'm concerned about does not have a comprehensive medical record because he is lax in his mental and physical health care due to his illness.

Will the fact that his illness prevents a comprehensive med record ironically keep him from proving he is unable to work?

First off what is your age , second it can take up to 90 days to hear back most are denied then you have to appeal. If your state only has the 2 step process then after your first denial you can only appeal to have a hearing in front of the alj. That can take a year or more. Get a Ssdi lawyer they only get paid if you win and they can tell you if you have a case. Los you better have up to date medical records to show that you can't work.
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:21 PM
 
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It would be smarter to talk to a social security lawyer than to try to get advice on an internet forum. My best advice to this patient is to find a good social security lawyer, retain his services, and ask him these questions. The quality of advice is likely to be better.
Agreed; they are not going to go by a employers finding. Mnay working suffer from depression after all and take treatment for it.
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Old 09-08-2014, 02:52 AM
 
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If a person misses a lot of work due to severe depression, poor ADLS, poor sleep where the patient is sleeping 20hrs a day and not showing up on time or at all to work, is this taken into consideration when applying for ssdi?

Specifically, if the patient has been fired from his last 3 jobs because of this, is this weighted as heavily or less or more than the medical record?

The patient who I'm concerned about does not have a comprehensive medical record because he is lax in his mental and physical health care due to his illness.

Will the fact that his illness prevents a comprehensive med record ironically keep him from proving he is unable to work?
Is the claimant currently working? If the claimant is currently working and earning at least $1070/month, the application will be denied. If the claimant is not working at that level, the claim will be forwarded to the state's Disability Determination Services "DDS". DDS will attempt to obtain any outstanding medical records, but if there are no medical records to support a determination of medical eligibility, DDS will purchase a psych consultation. The claimant will be examined by the consultant and the results/opinion will be sent to DDS for review by the DDS examiner.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:58 PM
 
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The patient has not worked in over 2 years. When he last worked, he made over 4k a month.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:47 AM
 
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This is actually a patient I used to see for depression. Do you think a letter from me, in addition to past med records will help his case?

He is reluctant to use a lawyer due to 1. The costs. And 2. He lacks the motivation to obtain one (which is a symptom of his illness. )

I have worked in the past for insurance companies that provided short term care, but never have helped a patient secure SSDI.

ANY additional information very appreciated!
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