Why you lost your old insurance plan- explained in 3 minutes

[Cranston]

Originally Posted by iowa4430

They have now destroyed an entire industry

What are your top 3 ways that health care/insurance is worse today 2014 then in 2008?

[modhatter]

Originally Posted by iowa4430

I have said this a hundred times.

We didnt need health INSURANCE reform. We needed health CARE reform.

As usual the extremist democrats tried to fix a problem that fit their distorted narrative and missed the ball entirely. As usual.

They have now destroyed an entire industry and still havent addressed the real issues. Much of which govt is behind.

I agree with your separation between insurance reform and health care reform, though there is obviously some overlap between the two, they also need to be looked at independently. I don't agree with your assertions that we did not need insurance reform. We certainly did, and perhaps if you were more aware of the horrendous practices on the insurance companies (when you contract a serious illness) you may not feel the same way. You might enjoy the book called Deadly Spin by Wendell Potter. http://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Spin-In...24261WYEEJRNMT

Also, there was a proliferation of policies out there that left people very vulnerable for lack of coverage when a costly illness would occur. There were many deletions and omissions in the small print that made these policies almost useless, except for minor treatments, but admittedly they were cheep. Also, refusing to insure anyone with a pre-existing condition is about as inhumane as it gets, next to rescinding their policy when they become seriously ill due to some technicality they dig up.

So, yes, we needed insurance reform. Now we need health care reform, and I agree with that statement as it was only partially covered in the insurance reform.

Do I think the ACA was the ideal solution? No I do not. But it appears it was all we could get considering the current political divide, and corporative interests trumping individual interests, and it still beats what we had. So now we need to get behind the type of change that will serve the people first.

[Voyager39]

Originally Posted by iowa4430

I have said this a hundred times.

We didnt need health INSURANCE reform. We needed health CARE reform.

As usual the extremist democrats tried to fix a problem that fit their distorted narrative and missed the ball entirely. As usual.

They have now destroyed an entire industry and still havent addressed the real issues. Much of which govt is behind.

I'd be interested to know the details of what you mean by reforming Care as opposed to Insurance.
Assuming that various types of care are indeed reformed/improved, it appears to me that the issue of who would pay for it would still inevitably arise.

Your mention of "destroying an entire industry" prompts me to ask just what got destroyed and who was hurt by it. The administration seems to have made a strategic decision to ally itself with the health insurance industry rather than fight yet another losing battle, as was done in the 1990s. So the HC industry seems to be doing well, admittedly to the chagrin of many people (including many progressives) who tend not to like this industry.

[TN Lily]

Before the Affordable Health Care Act, it was worse. If you had a pre-existing condition, good luck on even getting insurance and if you could get coverage, it was exorbitant in cost. The current system is far from perfect --- you can even call if horribly flawed. But we started with a system that had become unworkable for many citizens. I fully understand why people hate the current system -- costs going up and up and paying for coverage they do not need.

BUT I do not hear about viable alternatives being propounded by those who oppose the Affordable Health Care Act and advocate its repeal.