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Old 11-11-2016, 06:34 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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they are not able to change anything like the individual mandate.
Trump claims that he does not want to change the individual mandate. After all, he's a businessman; he knows how insurance works. (Not that I believe that health care should be for profit and even involve insurance, but that's a whole other subject.)
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Old 11-11-2016, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Trump claims that he does not want to change the individual mandate. After all, he's a businessman; he knows how insurance works. (Not that I believe that health care should be for profit and even involve insurance, but that's a whole other subject.)
I would think that virtually all the objections to the ACA deal with the mandate and the cost for the non subsidized. Is there any other issue?
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:03 PM
 
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The pre-existing condition ban is too popular across the board to mess with. Also, allowing children to remain on plans until age 26 is very popular. Those 2 laws are by-far the most popular and least controversial. For political reasons, you can't just ignore those who do get marketplace plans. If they gut it and do nothing, there will be a price to pay in 2018.

Nothing can be done for the 2017 benefit year. For 2018, the timetable is also very tight. The insurance companies need to know by spring.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:05 PM
 
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Thing is, nothing will come AFTER the ACA, not as in repealed and flushed down the toilet. It will be revamped, renamed, containing qualities of old and new.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:16 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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I would think that virtually all the objections to the ACA deal with the mandate and the cost for the non subsidized. Is there any other issue?
Pre-existing conditions, 26-year-olds on parents' policies, the cap, subsidies to those with lower incomes.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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I would think that virtually all the objections to the ACA deal with the mandate and the cost for the non subsidized. Is there any other issue?
Insurance companies want tighter restrictions on qualifying events to purchase off the marketplace.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:43 PM
 
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Keep in mind he backtracks or goes sideways on his positions six times in a day, so the above should be read with that in mind.
and that is the whole crux of this issue, he never had a plan, never even understood what he was saying, may not even believe what he says, but he knew how to dupe voters and he was a master puppeteer, Got to love him for that.
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Old 11-12-2016, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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Reports may vary, but I read that Trump said that that he disliked the mandate on the grounds that no one should be forced to buy into a plan. He later stated that he agreed that the feature of non-discrimination based on pre-existing conditions should stay.

The problem seems obvious to me. Without the mandate (which requires healthy people to pay premiums), the classic problem arises of only sick people signing up for the plan. This will tend to make the plans money-losing operations that require support from the government, which he also doesn't like.

Trump has changed his views substantially in just a couple of days. Perhaps over the next 2-3 months, he'll adapt even more.
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Old 11-12-2016, 05:18 AM
 
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Trump claims that he does not want to change the individual mandate. After all, he's a businessman; he knows how insurance works. (Not that I believe that health care should be for profit and even involve insurance, but that's a whole other subject.)
Being a businessman doesn't mean he has any clue how insurance works, and the drivel the comes from his mouth proves that.

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The pre-existing condition ban is too popular across the board to mess with. Also, allowing children to remain on plans until age 26 is very popular. Those 2 laws are by-far the most popular and least controversial. For political reasons, you can't just ignore those who do get marketplace plans. If they gut it and do nothing, there will be a price to pay in 2018.

Nothing can be done for the 2017 benefit year. For 2018, the timetable is also very tight. The insurance companies need to know by spring.

Not true. If Trump signed an executive order rescinding the ACA, there would be nothing stopping insurance companies from dropping their Marketplace plans.
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Old 11-12-2016, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Being a businessman doesn't mean he has any clue how insurance works, and the drivel the comes from his mouth proves that.




Not true. If Trump signed an executive order rescinding the ACA, there would be nothing stopping insurance companies from dropping their Marketplace plans.
I think he meant that whatever happens, Trump is not going to rescind it in 2017. I don't think he can rescind it by executive order anyways. He needs Congress for that, which he has for now.
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