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Sometimes the thinking of the OP, and the meaning of the original post, become clear only after a number of subsequent posts by the OP. That is the case in this thread. At first it was a mystery why anyone would want to get off Medicare, but then it became clear that the OP (or to be more precise, the OP's friend) is not interested in having medical care as 99% of us think of it, that is, she is not interested in scientific medicine. She wants herbal treatments and the like, which are not covered by Medicare.
Whether that thinking is justified or reasonable would be an involved debate which would probably be off-topic for this thread - therefore I will not enage in it.
Therefore, we are back to a narrow, technical question: How can some one who is enrolled in Medicare get off Medicare? Unless I have missed something, that question has not yet been answered.
MediGap (aka Plan E, F ... etc) plans are meant to cover the co-pay and deductibles of Plan A and B, depending which Plan one chooses and pays for. They are additional, i.e. not something it appears your friend has signed up for.
The new 'proposed' changes to health care would not affect Medicare recipients currently. Medicare is entangled with the Affordable Care Act (which Republicans are discussing changing), but is not in immediate danger. Premiums will not be going up, and for your friend already on SSDI with Medicare, they cannot raise insurance premiums in a way that would result in him having a lower net disability check. So his insurance premiums are guaranteed to be contained.
It would be a huge mistake to drop Part B (the 105 he has deducted is for that) as his premiums will not go up, and it is a bargain!
Please don't assume. This is the problem I'm facing. I'm trying to track down the place where they can pay B for you since it has swiped my property tax payment from my account. My income is very close to the friend. I would heartily support making it a percentage payment. My percent is 14 percent of my check. So no matter how much your income is, you lose 14 percent of it. See how that floats.... but don't discriminate against those of us that for whatever life challenges and need all of that check to make it. And don't make it necessary to jump through any hoops to do it either.
The state should have some program to help paying it but you'll have to search. After many calls I think I found the right office and they are sending me a form. But I'm still very angry about this since its picking on those of us who already have to know how to manage our money and can't afford it.
Therefore, we are back to a narrow, technical question: How can some one who is enrolled in Medicare get off Medicare? Unless I have missed something, that question has not yet been answered.
It was last October, but here it is again:
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Collyer wrote that she agreed the men are “trapped in a government program intended for their benefit,” but that the statutory scheme in question is legal, since the laws governing Medicare are clear that anyone entitled to Social Security retirement benefits is automatically enrolled in Medicare Part A when they turn 65.
“Requiring a mechanism for Plaintiffs and others in their situation to “disenroll” would be contrary to congressional intent, which was to provide “mandatory” benefits under Medicare Part A for those receiving Social Security Retirement benefits,” she wrote.
Part A is automatic for those collecting SS benefits. Only way to disenroll is to also give up one's SS benefits. So, it appears the courts have ruled anyone receiving SS benefits is "trapped in a government program (Medicare) intended for their benefit."
Of course, one can still choose not to enroll in Part B.
Guess it's a good thing that, for most of us, Medicare is not a hardship, but rather a blessing.
It was last October, but here it is again:
Part A is automatic for those collecting SS benefits. Only way to disenroll is to also give up one's SS benefits. So, it appears the courts have ruled anyone receiving SS benefits is "trapped in a government program (Medicare) intended for their benefit."
Of course, one can still choose not to enroll in Part B.
Guess it's a good thing that, for most of us, Medicare is not a hardship, but rather a blessing.
How does one get out of B, and will that return your funds they have imposed and subtraced from your budget (without permission) to pay for you to use it? At the MOST this removal of part b should be a specific percentage of one's income, very low on the low income and a allowing highter limits on the high side.
How do I terminate my enrollment with Medicare Part B when I have other health insurance?
If you wish to terminate your enrollment, talk to us and we will help you submit a signed request for termination or Form CMS-1763. Termination is a serious decision if you wish to re-enroll later, you may have to pay a surcharge.
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) requires, when possible, a personal interview be conducted with everyone who wishes to terminate entitlement. Therefore, we do not offer form CMS-1763 online. We will help you fill out the form in-person or on the phone so we can make sure you understand the consequences of termination.
After the interview, a Social Security representative will give you a letter outlining the consequences of voluntary termination, the date your coverage will end and of the right to withdraw the termination request before coverage ends.
Termination of Medicare Part B will be effective at the end of the month following the month that you file the termination request.
For an interview, you can call us at 1-800-772-1213 (TTY 1-800-325-0778) 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., Monday through Friday or contact your local Social Security office.
Therefore, we are back to a narrow, technical question: How can some one who is enrolled in Medicare get off Medicare? Unless I have missed something, that question has not yet been answered.
I answered that already. For someone under 65 and has SSDI, you get a job with benefits. You will lose SSDI eventually, and also eventually lose Medicare until 65. I did this once.
I answered that already. For someone under 65 and has SSDI, you get a job with benefits. You will lose SSDI eventually, and also eventually lose Medicare until 65. I did this once.
It doesn't seem that's what the OP is interested in. It's not a matter, for them, of having or getting some other kind of health insurance so they can get off of Part B, but rather it's a matter of not wanting any health insurance at all because they don't believe in the practice of medicine so why pay for it? Sort of like a flat earth belief, or perhaps a better anaolgy here, sort of like a Christian Science (Mary Baker Eddy) belief.
Do you want Medicare to cover alternative therapies?
Your first post was asking how to get out of Medicare altogether.
Medi-care is part of the DRUG/pharmaceutical cartel, like the ama-cartel.
No person in their right mind wants to exist in a criminal organization, aka as a cartel.
Allowing the sick to choose freely... their treatments & substances with
much less side-effects, or in many cases no dangerous side-effects only makes good sense.
Denying such, is the reason for wanting to get OUT of the medicare cartel.
It doesn't seem that's what the OP is interested in. It's not a matter, for them, of having or getting some other kind of health insurance so they can get off of Part B, but rather it's a matter of not wanting any health insurance at all because they don't believe in the practice of medicine so why pay for it? Sort of like a flat earth belief, or perhaps a better anaolgy here, sort of like a Christian Science (Mary Baker Eddy) belief.
The OP wants something but I haven't figured out what yet. Still, the only way to get off is get a job. I saw some other ideas posted, but those won't get the OP what he or she wants either.
How does one get out of B,
and will that return your funds they have imposed and subtracted from your budget (without permission) to pay for you to use it?
Are you kidding? the government NEVER returns any $$$$ they took "without permission".
When you find an Advantage-plan that actually DOES SOME GOOD ,
the feds FORCE you to continue paying for part B.
I suppose it's better than nothing. That way if you need part A, it's already there; plus
you better make SURE you don't allow any crap you know will harm you further. Only use what you know will help....
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sense. 
such, is the reason for wanting to get OUT of the medicare cartel.
you know will harm you further. Only use what you know will help....
