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Old 11-24-2017, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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As I recall, while on SSDI, you had ACA coverage and then became Medicare eligible, but I don't remember what you finally did on Medicare enrollment. You are aware that when you reach 65, you are able to essentially "reenroll" in Medicare Part B and the penalty goes away.

If you haven't already, talk to the SHIP people in your state. Lots of people can't afford the Part B premium - there may be a Medicare savings program in your state that provides some help with that.

Many under-65s on SSDI have found the SHIP people to be very helpful:

https://seniorsresourceguide.com/dir...National/SHIP/
This question wasn't about my case, but thanks for the info.
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Some parts are free, some you pay for. And the ones you pay for are simply regulated insurance plans if you can afford them.
As Yoda might say, "Free it is not; paid for already it is."
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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That’s because some people may not need Part B or Part D immediately. Some may have continuing health insurance or drug coverage through work/retirement. Veterans and or/retired military may have better coverage through VA or Tricare and don’t need the Part D drug coverage. The 10% yearly penalty is to STRONGLY push healthier ppl into the Medicare risk pool. Just as we saw with the ACA, there are tax penalties if one doesn’t buy the coverage or have creditable coverag3 from another source. Sicker ppl will ALWAYS opt into Part B and/or D, whereas healthier ppl who are playing the odds WON’T. The risk pool needs healthy ppl into the mix, so that the program can sustain itself.
Yes, I know. My question is about why such a STRONG push is necessary anymore. It's very difficult for someone is part B eligible to get any other insurance. There was a time when it was easy, but not anymore. The 10% is a strong push, but there are other pushers too. A person in a situation where they have a disability, and a spouse on an ACA plan, is stuck. There's only one place to turn. However, that place charges a huge penalty if they go that way. It leaves a person stuck in a bad situation and getting worse every year. Some states do help, as Ariadne22 has pointed out. That's good, but it's a cost to that state that they shouldn't have to pay. I'm shocked that everyone thinks a 10% penalty per year is acceptable. People get confused and make the wrong decision and then find themselves with no way out of the problem.
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Old 11-24-2017, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Northern panhandle WV
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I don't understand why you think it is so unacceptable. So you think that those that signed up for parts B and D when they were supposed to should have to pay more to cover those that did NOT sign up when they were suppose to and then want in at a later date without paying more?
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Old 11-24-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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I don't understand why you think it is so unacceptable. So you think that those that signed up for parts B and D when they were supposed to should have to pay more to cover those that did NOT sign up when they were suppose to and then want in at a later date without paying more?
Why is it difficult to understand that someone barely getting by on SSDI can't afford huge penalties. 10 percent times multiple years is a lot of money to someone who has little. I did not say there should be no penalty. I jest think the penalty is excessive.
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Old 11-24-2017, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Yes, I know. My question is about why such a STRONG push is necessary anymore. It's very difficult for someone is part B eligible to get any other insurance. There was a time when it was easy, but not anymore. The 10% is a strong push, but there are other pushers too. A person in a situation where they have a disability, and a spouse on an ACA plan, is stuck. There's only one place to turn. However, that place charges a huge penalty if they go that way. It leaves a person stuck in a bad situation and getting worse every year. Some states do help, as Ariadne22 has pointed out. That's good, but it's a cost to that state that they shouldn't have to pay. I'm shocked that everyone thinks a 10% penalty per year is acceptable. People get confused and make the wrong decision and then find themselves with no way out of the problem.
Can you explain what you mean when you say that “they have a disability, and a spouse on ACA is stuck. There’s only one place to turn.”?
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Old 11-24-2017, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Why is it difficult to understand that someone barely getting by on SSDI can't afford huge penalties. 10 percent times multiple years is a lot of money to someone who has little. I did not say there should be no penalty. I jest think the penalty is excessive.
If the person has a disability, getting Medicare should be a godsend, no reason why the beneficiary should refuse Part B.
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Old 11-25-2017, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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If the person has a disability, getting Medicare should be a godsend, no reason why the beneficiary should refuse Part B.
The refusal was in the past when they had better nsurance options than now.
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Old 11-25-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Can you explain what you mean when you say that “they have a disability, and a spouse on ACA is stuck. There’s only one place to turn.”?
A person who has Medicare Part A is not allowed to get insurance through the exchange. If the spouse is on a subsidized plan, the person with a disability who has Part A' is not able to be covered by that plan. Plans outside the exchange, either won't cover that person, and if they do, the cost is way too high. The choice is a non-compliant plan, or Medicare with a huge penalty, or nothing. Just live with Part A and forget Part B, hoping you don't get sicker until age 65 (many years away) so you can finally get it without penalty (according to others on This forum).
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Old 12-23-2017, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Well you all have convinced me. Going to be signing up for part B, despite the penalty, right after the holidays.

Happy Holidays!
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