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View Poll Results: Which would you prefer?
Employed based insurance 11 39.29%
Govt Based 14 50.00%
Not sure 3 10.71%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-24-2008, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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Yes, but what happens if you have a catastrophic injury?

would your employers health insurance cover it all?

if so, for how long?
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:39 AM
 
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Yes, but what happens if you have a catastrophic injury?

would your employers health insurance cover it all?

if so, for how long?
Our employer is the Fed. Gov., thus we have the government health insurance plan that the politicians use as a role model for universal health care. It is made up of separate health care provides such as BCBS, Aetna, etc. that are approved by the Fed. Gov. as carriers. There are regulations regarding catastrophic injury and there will be under any universal plan. Anything going beyond a particular time frame would be treated just like it is today. No plan, universal or private will take care of you forever. You'll still need long term health insurance, medicare after 65, medicaid or welfare if your indigent.
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:50 AM
 
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Our employer is the Fed. Gov., thus we have the government health insurance plan that the politicians use as a role model for universal health care. It is made up of separate health care provides such as BCBS, Aetna, etc. that are approved by the Fed. Gov. as carriers. There are regulations regarding catastrophic injury and there will be under any universal plan. Anything going beyond a particular time frame would be treated just like it is today. No plan, universal or private will take care of you forever. You'll still need long term health insurance, medicare after 65, medicaid or welfare if your indigent.
i think youd be far better off under a govt plan.

many plans offered by companies will terminate you after a certain time frame, and your insurance with it...
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:31 PM
 
Location: KY
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OK stoy and Pink just what would you do if you had lung cancer? You are told you will die if you do not get chemo and other therapy?
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:15 AM
 
Location: most beautiful place ever
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Shilo, I've studied natural health for years. i won't get cancer. Besides there are other ways to heal cancer besides chemo and conventional therapy.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:01 AM
 
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shilo0854 wrote:
OK stoy and Pink just what would you do if you had lung cancer? You are told you will die if you do not get chemo and other therapy?
I can't speak for Stoy & Pink, but for myself, chemo would be the last thing I'd do if I had lung cancer ( I live a very healthy lifestyle, so my chances of getting lung cancer are slim to none ). Chemo killed my mom when she was diagnosed with colon cancer ( she did not eat a healthy diet, nort did she exercise ). Immediately following her very first chemo session, her condition went downhill extremely rapidly. Chemo is far worse than the so called disease of cancer. Chemo is a big money making scam that couldn't exist without the insurance industry to subsidize it. And we the people subsidize the insurance industry by paying inflated premiums becasue we've been brainwashed to believe that our lives depend on this hocus pocus nonsense. For someone with cancer, not having health insurance to pay for chemo, just might save their life.
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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Shilo, I've studied natural health for years. i won't get cancer. Besides there are other ways to heal cancer besides chemo and conventional therapy.
thats a pretty bold statement to make...
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:03 PM
 
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stoymonkey, I agree with crystalblue that saying,
I've studied natural health for years. i won't get cancer. Besides there are other ways to heal cancer besides chemo and conventional therapy
is a pretty bold statement to make.

Personally, I thank you for going out on a limb and saying it. Somehow you have managed to rise above the brainwashing that getting cancer and having the chemo experience is inevitable. My hat is off to you for exercising common sense and not buying into the commonly accepted hogwash.

There are some pretty devious people running the sick care scam. They clearly understand that generating FEAR about cancer and other incurable diseases is the most expedient way to keep the scam in place.

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Old 07-26-2008, 12:18 AM
 
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I'm undecided, but what I do know is I can't control how the whole country eats or exercises, so I wouldn't be as concerned about that when it comes to universal health care as others are. In a perfect world the tax dollars on universal would be going towards an entirely healthy nation that takes care of themselves, but that's unrealistic.

For every person that isn't taking care of themselves there would be someone who is trying their best under limited resources, or lack of knowledge, and truly needs health care and universal would provide it for them whereas they might not have the means without it. So I'd say it's worth considering.
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:22 AM
 
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OK stoy and Pink just what would you do if you had lung cancer? You are told you will die if you do not get chemo and other therapy?
What makes the doctor God? Just because a doctor might tell someone they will die without chemo doesn't make it true. I know you weren't asking me, but my answer would be I'd research and do all I could before I'd resort to chemo.

And that's nothing against those who have gone that route, I hope it helped them and kept them alive.
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