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Below is your picture along with two pictures of MUSCLE pain that are similar to your pain.
The pain areas that are marked in your shown pictures, are exactly the same as mine.
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Definitely read the link. It identifies common misdiagnosis. And it says that it is also responsible for dizziness, jaw and teeth pain in addition to the other areas.
Many symptoms in the text are exact as mine
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Don't necessarily refer to the pressure point treatment recommended in that site. Do research to determine the best treatment for Trapezius. It's possible physical therapy would help----if a physical therapist had you do the PROPER excersises. I'd definitely take these charts and info to the doctor to discuss.
I will go to my physical therapist and will show the charts. Hope she will give PROPER excersises. Don't really find and know what other things i can try for the trapezius muscle.
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Not as likely but the Levator Scapula could be a possibility:
I have done the same exercise that is shown many times. Didn't help me at all
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here's a referred pain chart for organs. How are you liver and gallbladder and liver?
Didn't check that will try to do that tomorrow
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But I thought it was worth showing you other possibilities, such as referred pain from organs.
Honestly, i am very surprised how are you guys from a different country are trying to help me, such comprehensive texts...Wow! It effects my emotional side very much and gives a motivation to move forward Such wonderful people surround me... If my doctors were as you guys, i think i was healthy in no time
The pain areas that are marked in your shown pictures, are exactly the same as mine.
Many symptoms in the text are exact as mine
I suspected! That's what was wrong with my son!
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I will go to my physical therapist and will show the charts.
Try to print out your pain picture in color. Physical therapists in the United States will give you a body diagram to circle areas of pain. If you provide that picture you posted of your pain, it will probably help her identify that it's the trapezius area.
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Hope she will give PROPER excersises. Don't really find and know what other things i can try for the trapezius muscle.
I will see if I can find the excersises the physical therapist gave my son. He sent him with papers that had diagrams and directions for doing the excersises at home. They used to be on our refrigerator. I will find them, scan them, and post them here for you. It might take a day or two before I can give them to you, but I will definitely find them and get you a copy of them somehow.
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I have done the same exercise that is shown many times. Didn't help me at all
The wrong excersises for the wrong area of the body won't help and can sometimes make things worse.
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No, they didn't. I didn't even hear from them about cortizone
It's a possible treatment. They didn't give cortizone to my son. They said it's best to try to treat it with physical therapy first. After six years of pain, I'm wondering if it's worth trying in conjunction with physical therapy.
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Honestly, i am very surprised how are you guys from a different country are trying to help me, such comprehensive texts...Wow! It effects my emotional side very much and gives a motivation to move forward Such wonderful people surround me... If my doctors were as you guys, i think i was healthy in no time
You're very welcome. Your being a developing country makes it more difficult to access information. I'm glad to help you find information to share with your doctors. It might help them give you an accurate diagnosis.
Just keep in mind that you might not find a permanent cure, and you might have to do excersises every day to keep your muscles in good shape. My son would sometimes quit because he was feeling better, and a few weeks later the pain would return. Regular excersises (the right excersises) keep you healthy and pain free.
Definitely still pursue the mental healthy therapy with a psychologist. My son's problems were two-fold, physical and anxiety. It's important to treat all aspects. Treating anxiety and depression are very important for keeping your muscles from tensing up. It also helps you maintain a positive outlook and pursue your personal goals.
I will go to my physical therapist and will show the charts. Hope she will give PROPER excersises. Don't really find and know what other things i can try for the trapezius muscle.
This is where the images are really good. I've printed them, then I will draw my pain on them. Any nerve pain, gets drawn on a nerve image. Muscle pain, gets drawn on the muscle one.
There is actually a procedure called Trigger points where they inject into the muscle for spasms. I don't know if that would help you. Different doctors use different things from what I'm told.
Trigger points - it tells what they are and what they do about them.
Injections provide more immediate relief and can be effective when other methods fail. Various injections can be used including saline, local anesthetics such as procaine hydrochloride (Novocain), steroids, and botulinum toxin. Injection with a low concentration, short acting local anesthetic (Procaine 0.5%) without steroids or adrenalin is recommended. High concentrations or long acting local anesthetics as well as epinephrine cause muscle necrosis. Use of steroids can cause tissue damage. Dry needling can be just as effective but causes more post-injection soreness. Botox is rarely indicated
You're very welcome. Your being a developing country makes it more difficult to access information. I'm glad to help you find information to share with your doctors. It might help them give you an accurate diagnosis.
Hello,
Yesterday was my third visit to my new neurologist for acupuncture procedure. I showed him the charts also asked him about the information you provided( medications, trapezius problems and etc.) and what do know... He got angry. His comment was " This is a very basic information that is provided in every textbook, dilettantes are advising you, who don't know what they are talking about, if you don't want my help, then go to your advisers (he ment you guys), if you have information that is new to me, then show it( how in the hell I'm supposed to know what is "new" to him?), Americans only have better diagnostic equipment, what do they think that stupid doctors live here? an bla bla... " In my mind i strongly disagreed, but i didn't want any drama. I sad " I didn't want to make you angry or teach you how to work. I just want to hear your suggestions. I think you are a professional specialist and i sincerely believe that you will help..." Then i changed the topic and started talking about politics, because he is in to that, so i think i got his sympathy from that moment, because the whole procedure time i was listening his suggestions about political strategies in Lithuania. Here he is, with a black jacket(just to imagine how he looks) :
Kitokia Lietuva 2010.05.20 laidos sve (http://www.pukas.lt/pukas-tv/laidos/kitokia-lietuva/458-kitokia-lietuva-20100520.html - broken link)
So yesterday after third acupuncture procedure i felt more pain. The pain lasted till late at night, even painkiller Diclac( maybe it is a inflammatory medication, don't really know) didn't help me. So I didn't find the energy to right you back guys, sorry for that. My neurologist sad if the procedures won't help me, he will inject hydrocortizone.
Regardless of his opinion I'm still doing what you guys suggested me. I had my blood test on friday, also my lungs checked just in case. Results will be on Thursday( because now it a long holiday in Lithuania). Also getting my liver and gallbladder checked on Thursday. Results will be right away.
The most difficult thing is that you have to wait so long... I mean really long... And you never get any results. I am feeling like that mythological creature Sisyphus who always has to pouch the boulder on the mountain top, and in the end every-time the boulder runs down the mountain...
Yeah, i know i have to visit the psychologist but i just have to express my feelings , it makes me feel better Now you are my friends and i believe in you. Besides you, i don't know whom to believe. It seems to me that your my last chance
This is where the images are really good. I've printed them, then I will draw my pain on them. Any nerve pain, gets drawn on a nerve image. Muscle pain, gets drawn on the muscle one.
There is actually a procedure called Trigger points where they inject into the muscle for spasms. I don't know if that would help you. Different doctors use different things from what I'm told.
Trigger points - it tells what they are and what they do about them.
Injections provide more immediate relief and can be effective when other methods fail. Various injections can be used including saline, local anesthetics such as procaine hydrochloride (Novocain), steroids, and botulinum toxin. Injection with a low concentration, short acting local anesthetic (Procaine 0.5%) without steroids or adrenalin is recommended. High concentrations or long acting local anesthetics as well as epinephrine cause muscle necrosis. Use of steroids can cause tissue damage. Dry needling can be just as effective but causes more post-injection soreness. Botox is rarely indicated
Hi,
My doctor sad if acupuncture doesn't help me he will inject me hydrocortizone
For the weakness, fatigue and memory loss, lack of concentration, and muscle twiching, I recommend being tested for a Vitamin B-12 deficiency, Iron Anemia. Also have your other mineral levels checked. But B-12 and Anemia can cause all of those symptoms.
Hello,
Today i had my tests results for Iron Anemia, kalium, calcium, calcium++, erythrocytes, leucocytes, sugar level and everything is ok. Tomorrow I'm waiting for magnesium results. Can't check B12 because in my hospital there is no such opportunity, because my internist says so But to be sure i will ask my blood test doctors, forgot to ask them, stupid of me
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Here's a referred pain chart for organs. How are you liver and gallbladder and liver?
i have checked my liver, lungs and gallbladder and everything is ok
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Such wonderful people surround me...
If my doctors were as you guys, i think i was healthy in no time
