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Old 05-17-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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I've never had kidney stones, isn't there a way to eliminate the problem. The cause etc.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:07 AM
 
Location: S. FL (hell for me-wife loves it)
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CapnTrips, Sorry to go a bit off topic, and I'll rightfully admit my ignorance here, but I thought kidney stones can be rid of with laser-type surgery?
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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CapnTrips, Sorry to go a bit off topic, and I'll rightfully admit my ignorance here, but I thought kidney stones can be rid of with laser-type surgery?

Endoscopic laser surgery is performed when the stone is too large to pass out of the kidney by itself, or with the help of intravenous fluids and morphine. When a stone is small enough to eventually pass, its usually allowed to take its course (never had a Dr. suggest otherwise). Even then, it can still take anywhere from several hours to several days for the stone to go through the entrance of the ureter, and there is some amount of pain for as long as the stone is blocking the kidney from draining.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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I've never had kidney stones, isn't there a way to eliminate the problem. The cause etc.

I've seen several doctors about it, had tests, etc. Seems to be hereditary, and all they could advise for sure was to drink more water.
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Old 05-17-2016, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I live in bodywide chronic pain from advancing arthritis. I will not take some of the OA drugs that MD's prescribe, so I manage well enough with what I do. I also take some supps that are pain type, so I search out alternatives for pain. I have a loved one who ended up so addicted to pain meds and she spent a lot of months in rehab. She's doing good now, all those drugs out of her body and managing her life with other protocols. From the pain meds she was taking, she lost her hearing. So she is paying dearly from the pain meds that she was addicted to.

I know that more pain meds can create more pain as they upregulate pain receptors causing more pain.

I just heard that prescription pain meds addiction are epidemic here in Orange County in So. Calif.

I can't imagine other's pain and worked hard to manage mine. I take a supplement for stomach protection as I ended up with an ulcer from a drug years ago for OA issues.

So many are in pain, but for me I've learned to accept as best I can. I also ended up with a mess from hip replacement, so I've had a major set back from that surgery..

All drugs come with side effects and I've learned to find other ways to manage my pain issues. I don't want side effects.

I've been taking pain meds for 13 years and they do not cause pain. People can make up such misinformation in their minds without any experience, and I say that because you couldn't possibly make such a statement without facts.


If you want to live your live in pain, whatever. I don't, thus I take pain meds for my unimaginable number of surgeries. After each surgery I feel better take pain meds and have no issues.
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Old 05-17-2016, 05:48 PM
 
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I have moderate / severe RA and the pain from that is NOTHING compared to the other stuff I listed. There is discomfort/pain and mind numbing all consuming pain that doesn't even let you think.
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Old 05-17-2016, 09:55 PM
 
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I've been taking pain meds for 13 years and they do not cause pain. People can make up such misinformation in their minds without any experience, and I say that because you couldn't possibly make such a statement without facts.


If you want to live your live in pain, whatever. I don't, thus I take pain meds for my unimaginable number of surgeries. After each surgery I feel better take pain meds and have no issues.
I took plenty of hard core pain meds after hip replacement surgery, which left me with more of a mess, I hope I never see another surgery the rest of my life, and I work toward that end.

I don't make up statements, other people also talk about the upregulating of pain receptors. You can look that up if you wish. I know I don't want to take more pain meds than I have to, and I do other protocols that help "calm" pain too. I don't totally rely on the pharma pain meds. MSM helps to calm pain, and an herbal I take Pain RX also "calms" pain.

As I said early on, I've seen so much damage from overloading on pain meds.

http://www.spine-health.com/blog/how...e-chronic-pain

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Old 05-18-2016, 05:26 AM
 
Location: S. FL (hell for me-wife loves it)
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I've seen several doctors about it, had tests, etc. Seems to be hereditary, and all they could advise for sure was to drink more water.

Back in the late '90's, I had a friend with kidney issues. A standard Dr. prescribed him to drink concentrated cranberry...it worked. Thank you for your reply.
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Old 05-18-2016, 01:46 PM
 
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I dont see the problem with using heroin for pain management when morphine is prescribed regularly. Both Heroin and morphine are closely related and come from the same plant with just a minor difference in processing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/...ne_and_heroin/
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Legalize pot. I have fibromyalgia and CBD helps with the pain and tight muscles a great deal, and I can sleep easier.


The idea of taking morphine for chronic pain just gives me the creeps.
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