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Old 03-30-2011, 07:27 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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The numbers are totally different from the study I'm seeing; but regardless, my point is the same: tubes don't "grow back." The prodecure might fail..the egg might make it to its destination even though the tube has been shortened. But the tube isn't growing back, and your article doesn't suggest that they do. And that is -only- through interval partial salpingectomy or post-partum salpingectomy that this can happen - because those are the only two procedures that involve shortening or removing the tubes. The others involve spring clips (which can fall off), sutures (which can become loosened), coagulation/cauterization (which can rip), silicone bands (which could theoretically slip off)...none of these are tubes that are "growing back."
I think you're arguing over wording here...what I'm saying is that it's not 100% effective like many of us were led to believe. In some cases the body will heal itself and pregnancy can occur. I've known people it happened to...not heard stories about friends of friends, or rumors, but actual women I know. I knew one lady who had a baby when she was 47, and she'd had her tubes tied and her partner had a vasectomy, and despite all that, she was having a baby. Another friend of mine had her tubes tied during her c-section and had a baby a year later. That's when I started looking up statistics for it.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:32 AM
 
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There is a failure rate for ALL medical procedures, no matter what their nature. From removing splinters to popping a zit, chemotherapy to sterilization. There is no risk of tubes "growing back" with a tubal ligation. That is incorrect information. There IS a risk of failure. But that was a given. I didn't think anyone needed to point that out.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:10 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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There is a failure rate for ALL medical procedures, no matter what their nature. From removing splinters to popping a zit, chemotherapy to sterilization. There is no risk of tubes "growing back" with a tubal ligation. That is incorrect information. There IS a risk of failure. But that was a given. I didn't think anyone needed to point that out.
Of course it's relevant to deciding whether or not to have the procedure...if it has a similiar falure rate to the non-permanent methods like IUD or pill, causes side effects in many women, and is not reversible, along with the expense of the procedure and the recovery time, and the trouble the OP is having in finding a willing doctor, what's the advantage of having it done?

The failure rate of a vasectomy is less than 1%, the procedure is less expensive, less invasive, and has a shorter recovery time. Personally, if I could do it over, I'd keep my tubes intact so I didn't have to deal with the periods from hell, and I'd send hubby to get snipped instead.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:25 AM
 
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I am a hundred percent positive that I dont want to have any more children I have two kids and I'm 32 I can easily get tubal ligation if I wanted to. The reason I have not done it yet is that I have an IUD it works for 5 years. I barely get my mentral and I have no problems with is what so ever. At this point I dont see why I would go through the surgery and start up my menstral again when the IUD is doing the same thing that the tubal would do. I will eventually get the tubal done (I think LOL).
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Old 03-30-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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The OP doesn't have any kids. The OP is in her early 30's, not over 30. UIDs are not recommended for women who have never had children; there is a medical reason for that. Tubal ligations are also not recommended for women under 30. Also, I think you're trying to say you haven't had a menstrual cycle in which you experience a normal bleeding period. The word is menstrual, not mentral or menstral, and it's an adjective, not a noun. It describes a cycle of fertility in women. It's a menstrual cycle. You have one too. You just aren't bleeding and cramping like most women do.
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Old 03-30-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: VA
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The OP doesn't have any kids. The OP is in her early 30's, not over 30. UIDs are not recommended for women who have never had children; there is a medical reason for that. Tubal ligations are also not recommended for women under 30..
Correction, as I said in my OP I'm 24. Im currently on Impalnon and was on Deop for 3 years before that and various other forms of BC before that. An IUD was not suggested for me since I dont have children so I went with the implant.
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Old 03-30-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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Oops that was a typo, I meant to say in her early 20's. Sorry. Also, I was on the pill from the time I was 16 til I was 35, with an occasional 3 month break inbetween (total of the time I was NOT on the pill during all that, was maybe as much as 2 years, but likely less). My OB GYN said I either quit smoking, or she'd discontinue my prescription for the Pill. I couldn't quit smoking, and I was married five years already and had zero desire for children, so I told her to go ahead and do the tubal ligation.
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Old 03-30-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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The OP doesn't have any kids. The OP is in her early 30's, not over 30. UIDs are not recommended for women who have never had children; there is a medical reason for that. Tubal ligations are also not recommended for women under 30. Also, I think you're trying to say you haven't had a menstrual cycle in which you experience a normal bleeding period. The word is menstrual, not mentral or menstral, and it's an adjective, not a noun. It describes a cycle of fertility in women. It's a menstrual cycle. You have one too. You just aren't bleeding and cramping like most women do.
Wow you can relax a little bit.. None of us here are doctors its a forum I seriously doubt the OP is going to run out and get an IUD just because JCJCMOM has one.

To OP... I hope you find something that works for you. I was just describing what is working for me. I actually got my IUD after I had my first then decided to have a second and had the IUD removed and once I had my second I decided to get the IUD again. I was in my 20s when I got it the first time. Good luck!
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Is it difficult to find someone who will perform this procedure on someone who is 24 and does not have any children? I've spoken to 2 OBGYN's and both of them advised me against it.

Any suggestions would be helpful.
The gynecologists you have spoken to are well aware of the issue of regretting sterilization.

For a woman with no children who has it done before the age of 25, the most common reason to wish it had not been done is that she is with a new partner who does want children.

If you do decide to proceed, the clip and band procedures are technically easier to reverse surgically if you do change your mind. However, many fertility specialists will offer IVF instead.

The newest female sterilization is the Essure method, which can be done by way of the hysteroscope in the physician's office. It is done with mild sedation and local anesthesia. Small coils are inserted into the tubes, eventually resulting in scarring of the tubes which closes them off. An xray - hysterosalpingogram - of the tubes is usually done to confirm that the tubes are closed before relying on the procedure for contraception. This may mean a 3 month interval in which another method should be used. The five year failure rate is less than 1%; ten year data are not yet available since it has only been commercially available since 2002. Failures can occur due to difficulty in properly inserting the coils or due to the tube not fibrosing completely or reopening - recanalizing.


If you do find a surgeon willing to do it, consider having clips or rings applied rather than the Essure procedure. That would increase your options if you did change your mind.

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