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Old 11-11-2011, 04:13 PM
 
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I have championship cholesterol, apparently, at 108. Can you beat it?
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Old 11-11-2011, 05:03 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I don't know what you're so proud of--mine is higher than that.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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I have championship cholesterol, apparently, at 108. Can you beat it?
Of course you can.
And you can (and it's best to) do it naturally.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What is the LDL to HDL?
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I have championship cholesterol, apparently, at 108. Can you beat it?
Using any medication?


I can beat your number. On 1/4/2008 my blood test data came back with a total of 106 and LDL of 49.
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Of course you can.
And you can (and it's best to) do it naturally.
Oooops, i thought the o.p. asked whether he could beat his cholesterol, ie; can he make it better .... which seems like a good idea if that's a high number 'cause i have no idea.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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I have championship cholesterol, apparently, at 108. Can you beat it?
You might wanna start writing your will.

That is a dangerously low cholesterol. Cholesterol has many protective elements and should not be so low. The exact correct levels are still unknown and they may remain that way for quite some time. All the research I've done leads me to believe that each person is different due to a wide (very wide) variety of influences.

However, while we all may be slightly different, there is a generally known "best" zone that is nowhere close to 108. Folks, LOWER CHOLESTEROL IS NOT NECESSARILY BETTER!! This is a MAJOR flaw and downright criminal push from the conventional medical establishments in the last 50 years.

The research that led authorities to that conclusion is so flawed it's not even funny. It's very sad actually.

I think very high cholesterol CAN be damaging, but it really depends on a number of factors.

Based on what we currently know, I would peg the best range of total cholesterol to be anywhere from 180 to 250 or so, depending on the breakdown of the numbers.

If a high HDL, at say 80 is considered a VERY good thing, then how can 108 be healthy? Your HDL number directly adds to the total count. Your LDL number directly adds to the total count (but remember, this number s calculated based on your TC and your triglycerides in the blood). If you have high trigs, your calculated LDL will be higher but the equation that they use is often times completely wrong.

You want your TC to HDL ratio to be somewhere under 3.5.
You want your Trigs to HDL ratio to be under 2, but lowest is best. In fact, and inverse of 2 is even fantastic, meaning that HDL is twice trigs! My wife has 78 HDL and 45 trigs. This is VERY good.

Also, remember that only 1/5 of trigs is in your TC number.

So (for example) ---> 150 LDL + 50 HDL + 100 trigs = 220 TC

Those who believe lowest is best are ignorant of the truth. Cholesterol particles serve many purposes and do not cause heart disease and never did. But oxidation of LDL particles in particular is a huge factor in heart disease, and small dense LDL and VLDL are more prone to oxidation.

Normally, having very low HDL and very high LDL and or TC with high trigs and high VLDL is what could cause oxLDL, especially in the presence of inflammation. (one reason to keep an eye on cReactive Protein - CRP levels shown in lab bloodwork).

Ok folks that's enough info for now.

Cheers
JK

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Old 11-18-2011, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Buxton, England
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Too low cholesterol (as yours is) is not healthy. You HDL is probably far too low, and if your trigs are average or high, your trig/HDL cholesterol will be high and that is high risk for a heart attack.

Total cholesterol on its own means bunk.
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