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Old 11-07-2018, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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OP - you said you were in good shape but I didn't see any specifics. The effects of exercise can be quite significant - even walking at a good pace 30 minutes a day could really help your HDL such that your overall ratio is better. Not sure if exercise also impacts triglycerides but since yours are high you should check it out - can't hurt!
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:57 PM
 
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The prevalence of dementia will rise because more people are living long enough for it to develop. No mystery about it.
You always say that. You have no way of knowing if that's true. You just can't accept that drugs might be a factor.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:59 PM
 
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The OP said she has a thyroid problem, which is known to cause high cholesterol.

And by the way, it seems like an awful lot of middle-aged or older women are having thyroid problems.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:00 PM
 
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The bulk of the evidence contradicts the cholesterol skeptics. Plenty of links to that evidence in the link I posted.
No it doesn't. You only look at the evidence you like.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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You always say that. You have no way of knowing if that's true. You just can't accept that drugs might be a factor.
The math is here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5624986/

"The results shown here suggest that a large fraction of current and near-future elderly—and a fraction perhaps 50 % higher than that implied by the Framingham cohorts—will develop dementia in their remaining lifetimes. Furthermore, as old-age mortality declines, remaining lifetime risks of dementia increase substantially across birth cohorts."

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The OP said she has a thyroid problem, which is known to cause high cholesterol.

And by the way, it seems like an awful lot of middle-aged or older women are having thyroid problems.

She says her TSH is in the hyperthyroid, range. It is hypothyroidism which is associated with elevated cholesterol.

Yes, thyroid problems are common.


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No it doesn't. You only look at the evidence you like.
You did not read the link, did you?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ubmed_RVDocSum

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ubmed_RVDocSum

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ubmed_RVDocSum

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ubmed_RVDocSum
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Old Today, 06:13 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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I'm shocked at my recent numbers. Why? I'm physically fit, 5' 9", 138lbs so I'm not overweight, and I eat super healthy--NO red meat. I don't eat fast food or junk food. I am being treated for Hashimoto's (thyroid disease) but I'm not sure there's enough research on how to change the impact the meds (Levoxyl) have on bones and cholesterol. I've always had doctors tell me that the meds can impact my cholesterol but these are my very first high levels ever.

Here's my numbers:

Total: 152
Triglycerides: 220 (0 - 149) ** high
HDL: 73 (> 39)
LDL: 35 (0 - 99)
VLDL: 44 (5 - 40) ** high

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I haven't red the other posts (they're bound to be more based on imagination & disinformation than fact). But it seems they've turned you into a Cholesterol Cripple worrying about things that don't count too much.


a)cholesterol levels are determined much more by genetics than diet; Triglyceride levels are also determined largely by genetics, but diet has a much larger role.


2] total cholesterol levels are very weakly correlated with cardiac risk; the ratio of total chol to HDL has the highest correlation of the various ways of using the numbers. A ratio of 4:1 gives you "normal" risk of MI- 4/1000 per yr. … a lower ratio doesn't improve your risk too much, but according to The Theory, with a ratio of 2:1 you're bullet proof-- go ahead and start an argument in a bar. They can't hurt you.


c} Triglyceride levels in males are not correlated at all with cardiac risk, and are poorly correlated in females-- and even that may really be due to the relationship between lack of exercise and triglyd levels. They've been pushing @#$% about triglyc lately because they've already made all the money they can putting people on statins for chol.


d) Your level of 220 is a little high but not enough to lose sleep over. It's the people with genetic problems (triglyds 1000+ that are in trouble. Thyroid levels outside the normal range will affect the triglid level. Proper treatment brings it back to your baseline.


6] BTW- studies show that people on a red meat/low CHO diet have lower chol levels than those on a low fat diet. With your numbers, no need to deprive yourself.


ps/ VLDL is one of the chol & protein molecules in your blood. They measure total chol, HDL & VLDL, then subtract to get your LDL. A simple way to think of it is to call tot chol the garbage left on the curb, the HDL is then the number of garbage trucks you have to make the collections. No matter how much garbage is out there, it's not a problem if you have enough garbage trucks. OTOH- if you don't have enough trucks to get it all, it's still a problem, even if there isn't all that much garbage....This is why the only people who really have a significantly higher cardiac risk are those with HDL< 25.


pps/ First ever high numbers? They're correlated with age. Every day we get one day older...Just wait ;-)

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