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Old 02-28-2012, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Central US
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Been using lip balm all day & night all year for years. I have tried to quit using the stuff for two weeks and lived in constant pain.

Anyone had the same experience but "kicked the habit"? Any ideas?
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:57 AM
 
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There are worse things than lip balm. But I agree, being addicted to anything is the Pits!

Try to wean yourself from it gradually. If you use it about every hour (or whatever) see if you can make yourself wait 10 minutes longer. Then, as you get used to less, it will be easier. It might take a good while, but you can do it!

while you try, see if you can find a brand that you don't like as well. Some seem to have an aroma, that I really wouldn't want near my nose.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Out there somewhere...a traveling man.
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Dry lips require constant lip balm for moisturizing. Keeps them from itching and cracking. I use it all the time, doctor reccomended it.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:39 AM
 
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I don't see anything wrong with using it, I do it all the time myself. I actually like the one I get from the $$$ store, cheap, made with beeswax and peppermint!
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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I love lip balm, too! Licking my lips makes them dry and uncomfortable--lip balm keeps them moist and comfortable. In my opinion--Balm Away!
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I have several Burt's Bees lip balms. (Colorado is really dry most of the time plus I take meds
with a diuretic). I think I have 4 different ones right now, love them all, don't see any benefit
in not using them...
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:29 AM
 
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just make sure its a natural one not one petro based and your fine!!!
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:26 PM
 
Location: In a house
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just make sure its a natural one not one petro based and your fine!!!
Quoted for truth. Here's some detail:

Petrolatum (the main ingredient in chapstick) is solidified petroleum jelly. Petroleum jelly's original purpose was to seal gaskets on submarines, because it is 100% waterproof. Now give that a moment to sink in (pun intended).

100% waterproof, on chapped lips. Lips that are lacking in moisture..meaning - water.. getting a waterproof seal preventing any moisture from entering them. Not only that, but also preventing any dirt from escaping out.

You are coating your skin with a moisture-proof barrier. It gives a *facade* (a false surface) of softness. But you have deprived your lips of moisture for the past few hours, and when it wears off, it's even worse, forcing you to add more to give it that facade of softness.

Burt's bees will do the same thing, because burt's uses beeswax - which is - you guessed it - 100% waterproof. And neither wax nor petroleum can absorb into the skin. They remain a barrier. That is their function.

What you need, is a humectant, or other absorptive emolliant. Nut and vegetable oils of any types, glycerine (vegetable or animal), propylene glycol, sorbitol, shea butter, jojoba oil (which is technically a liquid bean wax). All of these will absorb into the skin instead of being a barrier on top of it, and will allow water to absorb in as well. All of those things will provide moisture -and- softness, without feeling even worse when they wear off.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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Burt's bees will do the same thing, because burt's uses beeswax - which is - you guessed it - 100% waterproof. And neither wax nor petroleum can absorb into the skin. They remain a barrier. That is their function.

What you need, is a humectant, or other absorptive emolliant. Nut and vegetable oils of any types, glycerine (vegetable or animal), propylene glycol, sorbitol, shea butter, jojoba oil (which is technically a liquid bean wax).
chemically speaking, jojoba oil and beeswax are both waxes.

according to a quick search on wiki:

Waxes are organic compounds that characteristically consist of long alkyl chains. Natural waxes are typically esters of fatty acids and long chain alcohols. Synthetic waxes are long-chain hydrocarbons lacking functional groups. (synthetic=petrol)

and that jojoba is plant based, and beeswax, obviously animal based wax. why wouldn't they both absorb?
other bee products are well tolerated and used by the body.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:52 PM
 
Location: In a house
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chemically speaking, jojoba oil and beeswax are both waxes.

according to a quick search on wiki:

Waxes are organic compounds that characteristically consist of long alkyl chains. Natural waxes are typically esters of fatty acids and long chain alcohols. Synthetic waxes are long-chain hydrocarbons lacking functional groups. (synthetic=petrol)

and that jojoba is plant based, and beeswax, obviously animal based wax. why wouldn't they both absorb?
other bee products are well tolerated and used by the body.
Solid wax is cannot absorb into the skin. The purpose of beeswax, as an ingredient in skin preparations, is to provide a light film - or barrier - and soften the outer surface of the skin. Beeswax is not a liquid. Jojoba is. Beeswax is mixed with other ingredients to emulsify it, thus allowing it to spread onto the skin, rather than just falling off of it. Jojoba blends into the skin, because it is the closest thing to sebum that the plant world has. Beeswax does not blend into the skin, because it is nothing at all like sebum, it isn't compatible with sebum, and it is a solid - no matter what emulsifies it in a lip balm (typically lecithin).

There's nothing magickal about beeswax. Just because honey is amazingly healthful (unless you're an infant, or allergic), doesn't mean that any other aspect of a bee's productivity is healthful. It's not bad for you, but it doesn't really do anything especially good either. It's just wax. Same thing that some artists make candles with. You'd have the same result with temporarily soft skin if you used parafin. And that is why parafin is used to dip hands and feet in, at manicure/pedacure salons. It provides temporary softness to the outer surface of the skin. It does nothing to moisturize it.
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