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Old 07-30-2012, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Cartersville, GA
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...FAM has been around for a long time and is very, very effective.
Really? failure rates seem to be as high as 25%.

This method can, without a doubt, be an effective means of birth control, if it is implemented perfectly. However, given the complexity, hassle, and difficulties associated with the method, and the fact that human beings often desire sex at times that must be avoided with this method, I do not personally believe it's the best form of birth control. Of course, individuals who oppose pharmaceutical and barrier solutions, due to religious reason, may disagree. FAM may be the best option for individuals whose faith prohibits others means of birth control.

As I said before, once must determine what is "best" for her. It's impossible (and therefore impossible) to determine what is best for 100% of the human population.
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:35 AM
 
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I had an implant in my arm. Never bothered me. They can take it out...and you can get pregnant.
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Dallas TX
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Really? failure rates seem to be as high as 25%.

This method can, without a doubt, be an effective means of birth control, if it is implemented perfectly. However, given the complexity, hassle, and difficulties associated with the method, and the fact that human beings often desire sex at times that must be avoided with this method, I do not personally believe it's the best form of birth control. Of course, individuals who oppose pharmaceutical and barrier solutions, due to religious reason, may disagree. FAM may be the best option for individuals whose faith prohibits others means of birth control.

As I said before, once must determine what is "best" for her. It's impossible (and therefore impossible) to determine what is best for 100% of the human population.
Plus the time, effort, and how you take your temperature is not for many women. Most want something easy to do and feel more secure about not getting pregnant.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Bolded for emphasis. TouchofWhimsey, your method might work great for you, and it might even work great for 95% of the women who use it. But it involves work, effort, following the rules religiously, and being ever vigilant. In short, it is probably one of -the- most "too much trouble" and "too much of a hassle" of all possible birth control methods. With the pill, you just take one a day, no measuring, no checking, no temperatures, no marking calendars, no nothing. With surgery, you're out of commission for up to a week, and then you're basically done worrying. With barrier methods, you only have to remember using them, within an hour of needing them. You never have to even think about them the rest of the day, or the rest of the month, or the rest of your life. This is why your method is not the most popular, or even among the top 10.
I didn't realize that it was a contest, sorry. I just made a suggestion based on the "no hormones" part of her post. For me, it's not a hassle at all. It takes under 3 minutes per day to take my temperature and evaluate fertility symptoms. I don't think about it all day at all.

I don't know if it's among the "top 10" most popular birth control methods. I don't really care either way, LOL. I think that if more people understood how their bodies worked, it would be a good thing... thinking that you can get pregnant every morning but not afternoon (for example) is simply erroneous, and women should know what their cycles are all about. But it's certainly no skin off my nose if you or anyone else isn't interested, just like it's no skin off your nose (I assume) that I'm not on the Pill. :shrug:
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Really? failure rates seem to be as high as 25%.

This method can, without a doubt, be an effective means of birth control, if it is implemented perfectly. However, given the complexity, hassle, and difficulties associated with the method, and the fact that human beings often desire sex at times that must be avoided with this method, I do not personally believe it's the best form of birth control. Of course, individuals who oppose pharmaceutical and barrier solutions, due to religious reason, may disagree. FAM may be the best option for individuals whose faith prohibits others means of birth control.

As I said before, once must determine what is "best" for her. It's impossible (and therefore impossible) to determine what is best for 100% of the human population.
Here's the whole Wikipedia quote that you pulled one sentence from:

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The failure rate of fertility awareness varies widely depending on the system used to identify fertile days, the instructional method, and the population being studied. Some studies have found actual failure rates of 25% per year or higher.[33][34][35] At least one study has found a failure rate of less than 1% per year with continuous intensive coaching and monthly review,[36] and several studies have found actual failure rates of 2-3% per year.[28][37][38][39]
Absolutely, I agree with the bolded. Even the Pill and condoms aren't effective if you do'nt use them properly. You don't need to avoid sex with FAM, though, during your fertile times; you simply use a barrier method (and then, of course, you are relying on the effectiveness of that particular method). If you follow the rules perfectly and use condoms during fertile times, then the effective rate is that of the condom. NFP (Natural Family Planning) is the one that requires abstinence during fertile times, and may be used for reasons having to do with religion.
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