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Old 07-07-2012, 02:48 PM
 
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I've yet to know a doctor that admits certain procedures are painful. I was talking about this with a friend because of my upcoming surgery.

I can speak of my own father, who is a retired doctor. For him things can be 'slightly uncomfortable' at most, pain is always a patient's exaggeration.

I mean, I can understand if they lie about pain in the private sector. They don't want to scare patients away and lose money. I can understand if they say it to 5 year old children, to get them to cooperate.

But there's no point in lying to adult people, it's better if they are expecting it to be painful. It won't come as surprise. I've heard of stories of patients walking out of certain exams because they weren't warned it would be so painful.
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Old 07-07-2012, 03:10 PM
 
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Hey...they lie to you because they're treatin you like a five year old, to get YOU to cooperate....I wouldn't know of any exams that have proved too painful for a patient except possibly mammograms...I've heard that they can be pretty brutal....course surgery and exams are 2 different things.....
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Old 07-07-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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Adults are adults. They shouldn't be treated like that. They should have full knowledge of the procedure, incluing the pain associated with it. Then they can decided if they want to go ahead. Adults should be able to cooperate on their own free will.
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Old 07-07-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Pain is for the most part subjective, what one person could stand with no pain killer may be intolerable to another.

With a lot of people, if the doctor said "YEAH, this is going to be very painful", a lot of people would as soon die than have the procedure done.
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Old 07-07-2012, 04:03 PM
 
Location: West Roxbury, MA
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Hey...they lie to you because they're treatin you like a five year old, to get YOU to cooperate....I wouldn't know of any exams that have proved too painful for a patient except possibly mammograms...I've heard that they can be pretty brutal....course surgery and exams are 2 different things.....
I don't think doctors lie (necessarily). I've had both knees (done at the same time), a hip and a shoulder replaced, and next week I'm scheduled for the second hip. For the shoulder, I didn't even need tylenol.

I never *expect* pain, but in my experience, doctors were always willing to offer meds and surprised to have them turned down.

As for mammograms...again, for myself I have never even experienced discomfort. The positioning takes some doing though.

(Don't let the "Barney throw you off...he's my dog and has never had a mammogram )
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Wallis and Futuna
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Comparatively speaking, some pains are more significant than others. For me, the pain of the needle biopsy on my thyroid, was worse than the recovery from the surgery to remove the thyroid. For me, a mammogram is almost unbearable, and the recovery from surgery following a lumpectomy was a walk in the park. For me, a needle prick (other than that biopsy, so far) for an injection or to draw blood, isn't even worth mentioning, but a shot of novocaine in my gum for dental work is gut-wrenching.

So when the doctor says "this is going to be uncomfortable," it really doesn't mean anything to me. If he says "this is gonna hurt" - it still isn't gonna mean much to me. If my gynecologist says that a cervical exam and swab is going to be uncomfortable, I'll shoot daggers from my eyes. Because for me, cervical swabs HURT.

As long as they let me know I need to prepare for -some- kind of unpleasantness, I'm good with it. Because I'm the only one who can tell whether or not it's gonna be painful, or just uncomfortable. And I won't know which, until they've already done it.
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Old 07-07-2012, 07:22 PM
 
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I agree that pain is subjective. And some adults even don't want to know the truth. When my mom went in for surgery she asked the doctor not to tell her what she was in for.
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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A couple years ago I had Laparoscopic Hernia Surgery and there was NO recovery pain and it was done out-patient.

Open surgery would have resulted in moderate pain and about a week in the hospital.
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I had a hysteroscopy, I was told it was only be uncomfortable for a minute. I almost punched the doctor! Anyone who has had one with only a local will understand.
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Hawaii/Alabama
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My Docs have always told me that I might feel discomfort(which I had learned meant some form of pain. When one of my Docs stated that I may feel pressure then pain I knew that I had at last found and honest Doc.

My pain scale differers from many because I have issues with chopping away my large and small bowel, as well as discovering a 27 inch mass in my abdomen. Once the Doc went in he was horrified by the mass that had managed to 'stick' to my organs. I ended up with a total hysterectomy as well as residual sticking on my kidneys, liver and on both lungs. My Doc actually apologized to me for his slow intervention.
In my opinion Doc expect that by the time we become adults we should be able to interpret what "pressure" and "discomfort" means.
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