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Old 08-17-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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Just curious if anyone else stopped a statin drug b/c of side effects.

And if so - what has your Doctor replaced it with, if anything...?
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Old 08-17-2015, 08:22 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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I've been through several statins...Crestor gave me hives, Pravastatin caused pretty bad brain fog and didn't lower my cholesterol even though I stuck with it for 6 months (then stopped because I wanted to be able to do math again), then she prescribed Zetia which is not a statin but is also supposed to lower cholesterol. That caused me to itch really bad all over. After that she told me to try Red Yeast Rice, a supplement, which caused brain fog just like the pravastatin did.

Right now I'm not taking anything. At my last appointment, my LDL was 125 and she wants it to be below 100, but I'm just not taking anything else for cholesterol.
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Old 08-17-2015, 08:47 PM
 
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125 is not bad IMO but you'd have to factor in your HDL ratio. Sounds like you're elevated, worst case. I don't know that all doctors would agree that you need a statin with that #
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Old 08-19-2015, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Both my wife and I get side effects from statins. Neither of us will take them anymore.
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I know this is several years old but I can't give up my passion about these statin drugs and more and more regarding memory loss.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/chole...mory-loss-link

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...rt-medication/

https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2016...lobal-amnesia/


OP: No I take no statin drugs but now and then I take Policosanol, why I'm not clear about that because I really don't fear this cholesterol issue.

Talking to my friend today about her father who ended up with dementia and he took supplements so much of his life and his wife talked him into getting on a statin, my friend thinks he was on that drug(s) for about 3 yrs. His mind declined. He did pass at 90 or so I think she said.

My folks never took these drugs. Lived long and mind were fine when they did pass.

My friend said that pharma had their way, just about everyone over 40-50 would be on statins.
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Old 08-17-2018, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I know this is several years old but I can't give up my passion about these statin drugs and more and more regarding memory loss.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/chole...mory-loss-link

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...rt-medication/

https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2016...lobal-amnesia/


OP: No I take no statin drugs but now and then I take Policosanol, why I'm not clear about that because I really don't fear this cholesterol issue.

Talking to my friend today about her father who ended up with dementia and he took supplements so much of his life and his wife talked him into getting on a statin, my friend thinks he was on that drug(s) for about 3 yrs. His mind declined. He did pass at 90 or so I think she said.

My folks never took these drugs. Lived long and mind were fine when they did pass.
From your first link:

"Another possible explanation is a well-known phenomenon called detection bias. People who start taking a new prescription drug are, not surprisingly, more likely to talk to their doctors and therefore have a chance to report any changes in memory they may notice. In other words, it's more likely that the reported memory problems were coincidences, and not caused by taking cholesterol-lowering drugs."

Second link describes trials with very small numbers of participants. What happens if you study a bigger group?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4351273/


"We identified 25 RCTs (all placebo-controlled) reporting cognitive outcomes in 46,836 subjects, of which 23 RCTs reported cognitive test results in 29,012 participants. Adverse cognitive outcomes attributable to statins were rarely reported in trials involving cognitively normal or impaired subjects. Furthermore, meta-analysis of cognitive test data (14 studies; 27,643 participants) failed to show significant adverse effects of statins on all tests of cognition in either cognitively normal subjects (standardized mean difference 0.01, 95 % confidence interval, CI, −0.01 to 0.03, p = 0.42) or Alzheimer’s disease subjects (standardized mean difference −0.05, 95 % CI −0.19 to 0.10, p = 0.38)."

Third link discusses transient global amnesia. People not taking statins get it, too.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20378531

Case reports like those in the article cannot determine causation

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5487843/

This study compared statins to other drugs used to lower cholesterol and found that both types of medication were associated with reports of memory problems in the month after starting the med.

"Conclusions
Although we observed a large OR for acute memory loss in the 30-day period immediately following the start of statin use compared with no statin use as did previous studies, subsequent analyses showed an elevated OR for nonstatin LLDs [lipid lowering drugs]as well. This finding suggests that either all LLDs cause acute memory loss or, perhaps more likely, that the association is the result of a detection bias."

What have your parents got to do with statins, since they did not take them? Your friend's father declined before he died at age 90? Your friend "thinks" he was on a statin for about three years?

" ... now and then I take Policosanol, why I'm not clear about that ..." Then why mention it? What do you expect it to do?

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/in...37/policosanol

"Policosanol is most commonly used for leg pain due to poor blood circulation (intermittent claudication). It is also used for high cholesterol and clogged arteries, but there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses."

From a cardiologist:

https://theskepticalcardiologist.com...nocebo-effect/

"More recently, multiple reviews and meta-analyses have examined the data and concluded that there is no significant effect of statins on cognitive function. Importantly, these have been written by reputable physician-scientists with no financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry."

https://theskepticalcardiologist.fil...7/08/aimed.pdf
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:56 AM
 
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My BIL stopped taking them because of the adverse effects. Statins are poison. There is no need to reduce cholesterol. The body needs it, and post-meno women are better off with higher cholesterol than lower cholesterol.

And remember there is no study that proves statistically that lowering cholesterol effectively lowers your risk of dying from a heart attack. And isn't that the main reason people take it?
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Old 08-18-2018, 09:16 AM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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My BIL stopped taking them because of the adverse effects. Statins are poison. There is no need to reduce cholesterol. The body needs it, and post-meno women are better off with higher cholesterol than lower cholesterol.

And remember there is no study that proves statistically that lowering cholesterol effectively lowers your risk of dying from a heart attack. And isn't that the main reason people take it?
Yes, this.

I quit them due to pains in my abdomen (liver). I stopped, they went away. It wasn't the classic symptom of muscle pain but was there none the less. And no, I did not consult with my doctor. I also changed my diet, cut out refined carbs and sugar. Cholesterol and Trigs in normal range. Not as low as with statins but still "normal".

The Real Culprit of Heart Disease. And It Isn't Cholesterol
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Old 08-18-2018, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Where the sun likes to shine!!
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Like with all medications some people will report problems and some people will love them. I don't believe in doctors just prescribing medications when there may be other alternatives.

My husband has high cholesterol. 15 years ago his doctor prescribed a statin...back in the day when they were really expensive. 5 years or so later he stopped taking them when a new doctor told him he didn't need them and believed most people don't need them. About 3 years ago both my husband and I went for a calcium screening. I was fine my Dh was not. Our doctor, same one who took him off the medication, sent him to a cardiologist because his #'s showed very bad for a widow maker heart attack(sorry I don't remember the medical terms). The cardiologist was shocked that he was taken off of statins. Statins were re prescribed and his numbers are better. First batch he had some muscle weakness. His medication was changed and he has no side effects but takes CoQ10 which works well with statins.

BTW, his mother is 85. She has been on statins for years and she has a memory like and elephant.




My point is some medications work, some don't, some doctors overprescribe, and some don't. Listen to what they have to say. Ask about alternatives for prescriptions. Try that first. If it doesn't help then try prescriptions. If you have side effects ask for a different type.


Yes the pharmaceutical companies have a multi billion dollar industry "BUT" they are not all bad. There have been major breakthroughs and to ignore them would be silly, IMO.
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Old 08-18-2018, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Whether one stops taking them or not, one thing is for sure: I would not just stop without letting my doctor know what I was doing. I am hoping when I have my Dec check up he will take me off. My overall reading are fine and I am on a min dosage. I might stop regardless but I will tell him I am going to stop. I do agree that studies seem to indicate taking statins does not seem to prevent heart attacks. Of course I am not a huge believer in studies period. They have to prove beyond any doubt what the claim for me to get worked up over them.
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