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Old 10-19-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Diphenhydramine doesn’t do much for me anymore, the only antihistamine that makes me sleep is doxylamine which is found in some types of Unisom and NyQuil.
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Old 10-19-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Elvis Presley died taking Sleeping pills back in 1977 ......take care like take 150 mg of Magnesium Citrate to get a good night instead
Elvis didn't die from taking only sleeping pills. He was found to have multiple drugs in his system. You make out like it was just the sleeping pills. It wasn't.
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:04 AM
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Location: Cushing OK
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I forgot to mention, antihistamine, like Benadryl, will help you sleep as well. I get bit up like crazy during the gardening months and take the Sams Club brand when I get bit and can't stop scratching. I noticed when I was at the store last time, a sleep aid they sell has the exact same ingredients as this antihistamine. One of the sleep aid pills has what 2 of the antihistamine pills has, and if wanted to try, it's cheaper.
I've found that benadryl is the one anth hystamine I can use without really negative results. Those stronger pills make me feel like I'm swimming in jelly, and I found the normal strength of benedryl does something close. So I got the pink sugary supup made for kids. If I'm really stuffy I'll take a couple teaspoons. I feel zoned but not completely out.

But I rarely take more than a portion of a teespoon, and it tells my brain its time to go into rest mode. I don't feel drugged but calm enough I can go to sleep. A whole pills worth of benedryl and I'm off in la la land, but can't actually sleep.

You might try the kid stuff, starting it with a lower dosage and work up to its enough to help sleep but not pass out.

Benedryl also has pain relief effects, and you can give it to not only humans safely, but your dog or cat.

One thing I do not do is use anything else when I take it but my usual suppliments.
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Old 10-20-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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Be Aware:

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...k-201501287667
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Old 10-27-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Somewhere, out there in Zone7B
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Well crap, I'm in that group. Guess time will tell. Now I only take it when I am bit and scratching and driving myself crazy.

Thanks for the link...I think
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Old 10-28-2017, 09:27 AM
 
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I would not recommend amitriptyline. I had bad experiences with it. I woke up in the middle of the night drenched in sweat most of the time and also clenched my jaw much more than I did when I don’t take it. I would also wake up with searing neck pain.

The only antihistamines that do anything for me are chlorpeniramine (which is still around but usually mixed with other items in tiny doses), and hydroxyzine, which is by prescription only and used for anxiety in higher doses. I tend to use hydroxyzine most of the time since the main reason I have issues falling asleep and staying asleep is because I get itchy, so that works for me.
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Old 10-28-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Benadryl keeps me awake. Any otc stuff that says may make you sleepy keeps me awake.
Thatís a Paradoxical Reaction, a very under-researched phenomena of Pharmacology. Itís more common in children, the elderly & those with atypical brain activity, such as TBI & Autism.

It happens more with Psychotropic meds but can happen with Antibiotics, although that appears to develop independent of the risk factors & has hereditary factors.

I wish I had a good link to provide but there really arenít many ... I suppose in order to understand how a psychotropic works the wrong way, youíd have to firstly understand how itís working in a right (therapeutic) way. And thatís not known, at this time, for many of them.

This abstract focuses on ďdrug induced behavioral inhibitionsĒhttps://link.springer.com/article/10...99809010-00005

But as most research articles will be ones from a nursing/patient care perspective or will be pre-1992, it appears to be yet another inconvenient topic. There are links available for non-peer-reviewed & published journal information on Google.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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Diphenhydramine doesnít do much for me anymore, the only antihistamine that makes me sleep is doxylamine which is found in some types of Unisom and NyQuil.
Every time I see NyQuil I think back to a friend who died in her sleep after taking it...she was on a heart med but this drug pushed her over. Lovely smart woman and gone.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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Every time I see NyQuil I think back to a friend who died in her sleep after taking it...she was on a heart med but this drug pushed her over. Lovely smart woman and gone.
Honestly, while I am sorry for the loss, if someone dies from taking NyQuil (in the prescribed doses), then they would have died soon from something like a sneeze.

My husband died while digging a hole, hole digging does not kill people, his bad heart did.

You would be amazed at the amount of elderly found dead from taking a poo.....
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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My OTC formula for sleeping (and I've had long-term insomnia from an over-active mind with no off button):

--Melatonin an hour before bed (experiment with your dosage, I take 3 mg., other report success with less--start low and increase gradually if no effect from lower amount)

--a big cup of Sleepytime Extra tea or similar sleep-inducing tea a half-hour before bed (these are herb teas w/o caffeine). The good ingredients to look for are valerian, lemongrass, chamomille, hawthorn, hops -- all natural relaxants)

--an acetaminophen 650 mg (if my arthritis is acting up or have various aches & pains from over-doing some physical activity

--sometimes a bath with Epsom salts...(more often in the winter as it heats up my body)

This combo really helps me fall asleep and stay asleep...no wake-up grogginess.
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