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Old 05-18-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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if you haven't noticed every mammal makes their own kind of milk for a specific time in their lives. That every mammal's milk is nutritionally different means that it is not meant for other mammals, esp if they are weaned! invalid analogy
Yes, every mammal is different and naturally produces a slightly different milk, but all milk is nutritious. Any mammal could consume the milk of another mammal and gain nutritional benefit from it. Humans have traditionally milked large herding species (cows, sheep, goats, yaks, horses, camels) because that is much easier than milking a cat or a dolphin. Do a little research and you will find that many traditional human societies throughout history have survived largely because they were able to obtain the milk of other species.

As for the analogy, every plant and tree makes a slightly different fruit and seed at a specific time of the year, for the express purpose of reproducing that particular plant. We do not therefore conclude that none of them are "meant" for us to eat.
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Old 05-18-2016, 08:47 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Actually I was surprised, I thought studies showed the hormones were doing all kinds of damage.... but... not.
Yeah, I've found that there is a lot of misplaced hysteria over food "dangers". Much of which can be solved by consuming in moderation.
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I love cheese and butter and consume copious amounts without apology.

just wait 20 years and see how your health checkups go. I'm thinking high blood pressure, high cholesterol and possible heart disease. Enjoy. I've been a vegan for two years and my health has improved dramatically. Prior to that I was a vegetarian for 40 years.
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Old 05-18-2016, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Clown School
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I'm not interested in telling other people what to do, but I know for me, dairy makes me feel like I have a cold or a sinus infection. So I won't touch it.

I don't do so well with meat, either. It seems to just sit in my stomach and I feel tired for a while after, even with a moderate portion. However I can stuff myself silly with fruits, veggies, and grains and feel fine.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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I can't eat dairy at all. Only goat or sheep in small amounts, and it's so expensive it's just not worth it for me. The casein messes up my digestion for days, and the lactose doesn't do me much good either.
The World Health Organization has a lower minimum recommended daily intake of calcium than in the US- I think it's less than half from what I remember. You can get that from a varied diet.
One reason people have weak bones in the US has nothing to do with calcium, and everything to do with rampant vitamin D deficiency.


Most human beings on this planet are lactose intolerant and dairy is not a significant part of most peoples diets.

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Old 05-26-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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I feel so much better after I cut dairy out of my life. No more bloating and much higher energy level.
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Old 05-26-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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I feel so much better after I cut dairy out of my life. No more bloating and much higher energy level.
That's great, but it's important to remember that not everyone is the same. I eat yogurt every morning, a half cup of milk with turmeric, and usually some cheese during the day, and I don't have any bloating or energy problems.

By all means, experiment with your diet and see what makes you feel better or worse. For myself, I feel 100% better when I cut out refined sugar. Dairy doesn't make a difference for me.
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Old 05-29-2016, 05:28 PM
 
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For many people, yes. It's an essential part of their diet. For those who don't like it or don't react well to it, you don't have to drink it.
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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a lot of digestive problems like IBS, etc. are actually stress in people's lives that they don't even realize they have because it was habitual from a young age or built up gradually over time.

Happy people can tend to eat whatever they want because the hormones produced by the parasympathetic nervous system promote good health.

So basically.. it you can eat it and feel fine afterwards, don't worry about it.

I still prefer fresh salads and fruit rather than candy bars and carb heavy pasta myself though.

If you work with toxic people who give you extreme stress, get out of that environment. If you think habitually negative thoughts, learn what mindfulness and visualization are, and visualize yourself as happy, tolerant, open, forgiving, and free towards yourself and other people on a regular basis.

All your stomach problems will magically vanish when your stress does.
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Old 05-31-2016, 02:23 AM
 
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I don't consume a lot of dairy, but if it wasn't so high cal I would eat it ALL. Cream, butter, good cheeses, full fat yogurt and milk..... mmmmmmm.

Oh well, skinny tastes better than milk. Kinda. Sometimes.

I would also eat dairy non-stop if it didn't have so many calories. I still eat more dairy than a lot of people and I always have some dairy in some way, shape or form everyday, but I'd probably drink multiple glasses of whole milk, tons of cheese, etc. daily if I could do it without gaining weight. Just slather that butter on, please!

The other day I had some pretzels and I melted some sharp cheddar onto them. It was so good. But, I had to sadly put the rest of the cheese block away or else it would have ceased to exist two minutes later.
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