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View Poll Results: Do you have side effects with statin drugs?
Yes – I have developed a side effect taking the drug 20 50.00%
No – I take the drug but no side effect 16 40.00%
Don’t know – I don’t know if my issues are side effects or not. 4 10.00%
Maybe – I didn’t know statin drugs have any side effects 0 0%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-05-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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Thank you all for your ideas and sharing your stories and suggestions. I appreciate all of you.

HedgeHogMom Thank you for the suggestions....I haven't been drinking enough water...good point and I'll mention it to my Dr. as well. Sorry that your Mom went through that. I will certainly consider the change in Dr. if needed.

So sorry Pinkstring that you are going through such a tough time. I do hope things get better soon for you.

RNYC You would have had to be there, we joke like that a lot. I just haven't seen her for this situation, so that may be part of my concerns. I'm on this, just wanting to be a bit more prepared and to understand the what and why better.

JAG Thank you for your ideas and insights...I appreciate them.

LeastPrime Look for some low carb alternatives, rice has lots of carbs, and if the beer is rice beer it could be a double whammy of carbs. Add more protein. Balance is what I've learned is the key just like we were taught as kids, the food groups.
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Old 10-05-2016, 03:47 PM
 
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A 12 oz beer has 150 calories, that's quite high, if one drinks 2 beers that makes 300 calories...then also alcohol makes hungry, the appetite rises, oh weh...this can, with time, cause the dreaded "beer belly."...:-D((((

Are the calories in beer from the alcohol, sugar or carb?
63% of calories from alcohol, 33% from carbohydrate, 4% from protein.

Beer is hardly healthy eating. Neither are hamburgers.
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Old 10-05-2016, 03:49 PM
 
Location: NYC
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63% of calories from alcohol, 33% from carbohydrate, 4% from protein.

Beer is hardly healthy eating. Neither are hamburgers.
Yup! So, no calories from sugar, I guess sugar gets converted to alcohol
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Old 10-05-2016, 03:57 PM
 
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The only thing you list that can cause a high trig reading would be the fruit. Do you eat a LOT of fruit? Fructose is known to increase belly fat which would account for a high reading, but 1700? that is off the charts. The highest I ever got to was maybe low 400's after being on a see-food diet?, lol AKA "eat everything" diet including pizza, ice cream, fried chicken etc. My latest trig reading about 2 months ago was 114 after being on LCHF diet for two years. You may have another dysfunction like thyroid or liver problems?

Fruit intake is not associated with increased belly fat nor is it associated with high triglyceride levels. The fructose eaten in fruit is totally different from that that is taken in in the form of sugar or high fructose corn syrup.

Alcohol raises triglyceride levels. So do refined grains (as opposed to whole grains), refined sugar/high fructose corn syrup, and saturated fat.
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Old 10-05-2016, 04:01 PM
 
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LeastPrime Look for some low carb alternatives, rice has lots of carbs, and if the beer is rice beer it could be a double whammy of carbs. Add more protein. Balance is what I've learned is the key just like we were taught as kids, the food groups.
Whole grains are mostly carbs (although they also contain protein and fats) have been repeatedly shown to have many healthy benefits.

Extra protein from animal sources has been shown to have many negative health effects.
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Old 10-05-2016, 04:10 PM
 
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Yup! So, no calories from sugar, I guess sugar gets converted to alcohol
Most of the sugars from the malted barley are converted to alcohol. That's the 66%. The other 33% is sugar, which is mostly maltose.
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Old 10-06-2016, 12:02 AM
 
Location: midvalley Oregon and Eastside seattle area
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Your Triglycerides are very high, how so? Should not be higher then 170.
Ohh, maybe you put an extra 0 in, as a typo?
1700. not a typo.
Was eating a lot of tomatoes, apples, prunes from our yard.
I am going crazy and taking it out on wife who is on my case all the time.
I dont know what I can eat safely.

It could be thyroid but my numbers are normal there. However, I can certainly feel the insulin when my sugar gets to be >140 (pee alot) or below <100.
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Old 10-06-2016, 12:08 AM
 
Location: midvalley Oregon and Eastside seattle area
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Leastprime: do you have a reaction to all starches? Have you tried other grains like farrow, kamut, etc? There are lots of choices, but not sure if that will help you.
Was eating a glutinous millet gruel and fruits and vegetables.
Too much starches will flush me out, cause itching, and urges to pee.
I am going to go to Dr Roadsdale diet or back again to a Atkins diet. More fats, controlled protein, no carbo or fruits.
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Old 10-06-2016, 12:14 AM
 
Location: midvalley Oregon and Eastside seattle area
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As for statins, Triclor, when I was first on them, the contradictions sheet that accompanied the prescriptions said "rare" instances of muscle pain and degeneration.

It is not rare, and certain ethnic groups are highly sensitive to statins.
YMMV
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Old 10-06-2016, 08:47 AM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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Fruit intake is not associated with increased belly fat nor is it associated with high triglyceride levels.
Sure it is. Do I believe you or a doctor?

Why Fructose Puts On Belly Fat…and How to Avoid HFCS
Dr. Richard Johnson: How Fructose Turns On Your Fat Switch

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Alcohol raises triglyceride levels. So do refined grains (as opposed to whole grains), refined sugar/high fructose corn syrup, and saturated fat.
Alcohol does (in excess). ALL grains increase triglyceride levels regardless of refined or not. Sugar of course does. Saturated fat DOES NOT increase trig levels in the ABSENCE of carbohydrates. The absence part is the key to this. Fat without carbs does not cause health issues related to lipids. So what is the culprit here?

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Common Misconception
Beware of bad fats. Cut back on saturated fat (found in red meat and full-fat dairy foods) and trans fat (in some fried and commercially prepared foods).

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This is always the first recommendation by those in the grip of saturated fat hysteria. In their minds, no matter what the problem, cutting saturated fat makes it better. You can eat saturated fat to your heart’s content and still markedly reduce your triglyceride levels as long as you rigidly reduce your carbs.
Again, do I believe you or a doctor? Whole grains contain plenty of carbohydrates last time I checked.

Above quote from this page
High triglycerides driven by carbohydrate consumption

This one is a good one and gets very scientific.
How NOT to have HIGH TRIGLYCERIDES

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