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Old 05-20-2016, 08:12 AM
 
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Actually, it is harder for your body to process the entire veggie making it better for you than the puree. The harder it is for your body to break down the food, the more calories you burn doing so.

As my uncle the cardiologist says, eat the apple, NEVER drink the apple juice.
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Provided one can chew I doubt it gets to the end of the colon undigested. However it is easy to drink a lot more than you could chew and swallow, and because it arrives in your stomach quickly the satiety receptors don't work so well (same goes for a pouch of yoghurt compared to using a spoon). Upshot being yes, eating is better, but a really nutritious smoothie* wins vs a meat and potatoes diet.


* that means an actual smoothie, not juice with a label, and actual amounts of good foods, not miniscule quantities of them.
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We aren't comparing smoothies to a meat and potatoes diet.

We are comparing eating the spinach and carrots versus putting them in the blender and drinking them.
Blending the ingredients does NOT equal juicing them. A small, but, IMO, significant distinction.

Let's say you took the exact same amount of carrots, spinach, and apples and consumed them 3 ways: whole, blended, juiced. The whole produce would be the best choice since you get all the nutrients and fiber plus the added benefits of starting the digestive process with chewing. The juiced produce would be the worst choice since the vast majority of the fiber is left behind, leaving you to consume a much higher ratio of sugar to fiber (store bought bottled smoothies likely fall under this "juice" category.) Although the vitamins and nutrients would still be beneficial. Blending the ingredients into a smoothie would fall somewhere in between. You're still consuming all the fiber and all nutrients, but you lose the benefits of chewing, and are likely to consume more because the smoothie goes down easily. However, most folks could stand to consume more fresh fruits and veggies.

So, if you're like my kids, who will drink homemade spinach smoothies everyday, but probably wouldn't eat spinach salads or sautéed spinach everyday, it's better to have the smoothie than not.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:19 AM
 
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Blending the ingredients does NOT equal juicing them. A small, but, IMO, significant distinction.

Let's say you took the exact same amount of carrots, spinach, and apples and consumed them 3 ways: whole, blended, juiced. The whole produce would be the best choice since you get all the nutrients and fiber plus the added benefits of starting the digestive process with chewing. The juiced produce would be the worst choice since the vast majority of the fiber is left behind, leaving you to consume a much higher ratio of sugar to fiber (store bought bottled smoothies likely fall under this "juice" category.) Although the vitamins and nutrients would still be beneficial. Blending the ingredients into a smoothie would fall somewhere in between. You're still consuming all the fiber and all nutrients, but you lose the benefits of chewing, and are likely to consume more because the smoothie goes down easily. However, most folks could stand to consume more fresh fruits and veggies.

So, if you're like my kids, who will drink homemade spinach smoothies everyday, but probably wouldn't eat spinach salads or sautéed spinach everyday, it's better to have the smoothie than not.
This is good. Good point about digestion beginning with the chewing. However, how are you still getting all the fiber? If you're making a smoothie from a carrot, a banana, some greens--whatever--it turns into a liquid. Can someone explain how you're getting fiber from a liquid? I just don't understand. I always thought by juicing or making a smoothie you still got the nutrients but you sacrificed the fiber.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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All the fibrous material is still in the smoothie (assuming we're still talking about dumping fresh produce in the blender at home) Your body is digesting it just the same, with the difference being that the blender is basically doing the "chewing" for you. But to the rest of your system it's the same thing.

Juicing however is significantly different in that the fibrous material is left in the juicer, and only the liquid portion of the produce is consumed (and lots of fructose sugar) is digested by your body. At least with the juicers I've used, you literally throw away all the healthy fibrous portions of the fresh produce. Seems like such a waste!
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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I totally agree with you on the smoothies. ^^^^^

My fruit smoothies always have a combo of the fruit and celery, carrot, zucchini. Then the additives like matcha, chia, hemp, flax etc. I stuffed after one, not hungry, and mine are very lo-cal, no added sugar and I only use protein powder (I don't need the calories) about once a week.

I just made a modified home made ranch dip and I had a bunch of bitter greens that were going to turn so I tossed them in with the herbs and rest of the recipe and sent it through the VitaMix it tastes amazing and super healthy.

Edit: I read of all the nutrients in citrus rinds so I just put those in too. I have a high tolerance for bitter.... the last batch tested that.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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This is good. Good point about digestion beginning with the chewing. However, how are you still getting all the fiber? If you're making a smoothie from a carrot, a banana, some greens--whatever--it turns into a liquid. Can someone explain how you're getting fiber from a liquid? I just don't understand. I always thought by juicing or making a smoothie you still got the nutrients but you sacrificed the fiber.
When you chew things end up mashed into a pulp before they hit your stomach. When you blend/smoothie something it is mashed to a pulp before it hits your mouth. When you juice you are left with a huge pile of pulverised dry material (the fibre) which is thrown away (or fed to chickens or whatever). If you added that pile of pulverised dry material back to the juice it would be a perfectly fine food. It would also be a smoothie.

Fibre is not necessarily super long strands. Think of whole wheat bread or All Bran. They are a pulp in your mouth/bowl, yet have a ton of fibre. Think of fibre as the indigestible part oft he food. It stays in the intestine without being absorbed and scrubs the walls and bulks up your stool. It also holds onto some water against the efforts if the large intestine so stools are softer.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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A smoothie drink that I bought from a health food store is loaded with things such as broccoli, spinach, wheat grass, mango, banana, and more. So instead of eating greens do you think that I am getting sufficient food value from that smoothie. I realize that I am not getting the roughage.
Based on two threads, you seem to have an approach-avoidance issue going on here with leafy vegetables. You know you need them, but would rather not fool with them, but you know you need them etc. etc.

Here's my advice since it's obvious you aren't going to go to a grocery store and buy some spinach-kale- etc and take it home and cook it:

Find yourself a good, nearby smoothie shop that makes organic smoothies. Go in. Ask if they have a senior discount. If they don't, don't worry about it. Then tell them you want a fairly sweet, high protein, high fiber smoothie that will give you 5 servings of vegetables. They'll mix you up a tasty treat that costs less than that overpriced, made who knows where bottled stuff.
Tell them your name. Pay cash. Tip the server.
Repeat this at least 5 times a week. You'll like the service and the smoothies better every time you go back.
Quit worrying.
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