
09-09-2016, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Iaskwhy
Exactly. Would you take your car to a mechanic that has never driven before?
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You've explained that you're male. You've never been to an OBGYN as a patient yourself. Many women posting here have that actual life experience (I've been to several male and female doctors). So we're the ones with the experience, and you want us all to believe that you're the expert! What's the difference there?
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09-09-2016, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Iaskwhy
Of course I would be, that's why I wouldn't go to a female doctor for such an exam. You can't have it both ways. If there is nothing sexual about such an exam than you shouldn't be anymore embarrassed than if the doctor was looking in your ear.
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And if you had read my post, I didn't have a choice-I was in the military. I didn't know who my doc was going to be until he walked in. If I had met him prior to "having it all hang out" so to speak, I probably wouldn't have been as embarrassed as I was.
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09-09-2016, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CatwomanofV
And if you had read my post, I didn't have a choice-I was in the military. I didn't know who my doc was going to be until he walked in. If I had met him prior to "having it all hang out" so to speak, I probably wouldn't have been as embarrassed as I was.
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You could have asked for a different doctor or refused.
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09-09-2016, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottawa2011
You've explained that you're male. You've never been to an OBGYN as a patient yourself. Many women posting here have that actual life experience (I've been to several male and female doctors). So we're the ones with the experience, and you want us all to believe that you're the expert! What's the difference there?
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I have been to the gynecologist with previous girlfriends and I am probably going with my current girlfriend soon. None of the would see a male gynecologist. I have talked to all of them about it. They all agree with what I said in this thread. Many have refused to see male gynecologists when there appointments were changed. All were creeped out by the idea. Granted, I do only date intelligent women who think for themselves and don't blindly accept what they have been told. So that isn't exactly a representative sample.
BTW aren't you the same one arguing that male obgyns don't need to experience femalehood in order to make a good female-issue doctor? Yet because I am a male I cannot possibly have expertise in this discussion. You don't see the contradiction there at all?
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09-09-2016, 05:57 PM
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"The AJC obtained and analyzed more than 100,000 disciplinary documents and other records from across the country to find cases that may have involved sexual misconduct. Then reporters identified more than 3,100 doctors who were publicly disciplined since Jan. 1, 1999 after being accused of sexual infractions. More than 2,400 were sanctioned for violations that clearly involved patients. The rest were disciplined for sexual harassment of employees or for crimes such as child pornography, public indecency or sexual assault.
Yet many, if not most, cases of physician sexual misconduct remain hidden. The AJC investigation discovered that state boards and hospitals handle some cases secretly. In other cases, medical boards remove once-public orders from their websites or issue documents that cloak sexual misconduct in vague language.
When cases do come to the public’s attention, they are often brushed off by the medical establishment as freakishly rare. While the vast majority of the nation’s 900,000 doctors do not sexually abuse patients, the AJC found the phenomenon is akin to the priest scandal: It doesn’t necessarily happen every day, but it happens far more often than anyone has acknowledged."
http://doctors.ajc.com/doctors_sex_a..._microsite_nav
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09-09-2016, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Iaskwhy
You could have asked for a different doctor or refused.
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The military is a bit different than it is in civilian life. Sometimes you just don't have a choice! At the time, I didn't have a choice. That was the ONLY doc and I couldn't refused because I had an abnormal pap smear which is why I was there in the first place.
You weren't there, you don't know the circumstances, and you certainly don't know me! I am just telling about something that happened to me a long time ago and you think that I was totally wrong for the way I felt at the time. I really wish that you would not make assumptions about people you don't even know or situations that you were not there for.
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09-09-2016, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CatwomanofV
The military is a bit different than it is in civilian life. Sometimes you just don't have a choice! At the time, I didn't have a choice. That was the ONLY doc and I couldn't refused because I had an abnormal pap smear which is why I was there in the first place.
You weren't there, you don't know the circumstances, and you certainly don't know me! I am just telling about something that happened to me a long time ago and you think that I was totally wrong for the way I felt at the time. I really wish that you would not make assumptions about people you don't even know or situations that you were not there for.
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What assumption did I make? If you told the doctor "no" they would have held you down and done it anyway? If not, then you had a choice. You wouldn't have died if you waited for a female doctor to do the exam. You had a choice. Why are you being defensive? Where did I say you were wrong?
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09-09-2016, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Iaskwhy
What assumption did I make? If you told the doctor "no" they would have held you down and done it anyway? If not, then you had a choice. You wouldn't have died if you waited for a female doctor to do the exam. You had a choice. Why are you being defensive? Where did I say you were wrong?
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You said that I shouldn't have felt embarrassed when I did. I tried to explain the situation to you but you just don't get it.
I have said my piece and I am totally done with this tread!
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09-09-2016, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CatwomanofV
You said that I shouldn't have felt embarrassed when I did. I tried to explain the situation to you but you just don't get it.
I have said my piece and I am totally done with this tread!
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I said you shouldn't have felt embarrassed if there is nothing remotely sexual about a gynecological exam from a male doctor. Given that I think there is something sexual about it, I think it was perfectly reasonable to feel embarrassed. All I am asking for is some consistency from the people in this thread.
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09-09-2016, 07:49 PM
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I'm going to stop feeding posters with unusual fetishes. It's pointless and it's actually what they want.
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