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Old 07-22-2016, 06:45 PM
 
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Ask Your Doctor if This Ad Is Right for You
By Elisabeth Rosenthal

The health care industry spent $14 billion on advertising in 2014, according to Kantar Media, a jump of nearly 20 percent since 2011. That includes over-the-counter medications, but not sponsorships (the Super Bowl had two health care systems as partners). While magazine advertising has dropped off somewhat with the withering of the publishing industry, television advertising has risen 55 percent for hospitals and 30 percent for prescription drugs in that period.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/su...-you.html?_r=0

 
Old 07-22-2016, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I am so sick of it all. I still "stress" about my blood pressure and take 3 meds, older class, and still not as LOW as "they" say it should be. A friend sent me info on newer guidelines of 115/75 and the drug being pushed is telmisartan. I don't think it's real new but newer. I never heard of it. Just talked to the CVS pharmacist and for 90 tabs of a moderate dose it's $400+, I howled and said I'd rather die. I have no drug insurance.

I question the new guidelines just like the statins and that dangerous cholesterol.

My supplements are CHEAP. Too too bad I can't get off the BP meds and bring down the BP. I'll stick with what I take now.
 
Old 07-22-2016, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I am so sick of it all. I still "stress" about my blood pressure and take 3 meds, older class, and still not as LOW as "they" say it should be. A friend sent me info on newer guidelines of 115/75 and the drug being pushed is telmisartan. I don't think it's real new but newer. I never heard of it. Just talked to the CVS pharmacist and for 90 tabs of a moderate dose it's $400+, I howled and said I'd rather die. I have no drug insurance.

I question the new guidelines just like the statins and that dangerous cholesterol.

My supplements are CHEAP. Too too bad I can't get off the BP meds and bring down the BP. I'll stick with what I take now.
There is no guideline of "115/75".

There are multiple guidelines that depend on age and the presence of other medical conditions, such as diabetes and heart disease.

The guideline for under age 60 or over 60 with medical problems is 140/90. For over age 60 with no medical problems it's 150/90.

http://www.nmhs.net/documents/27JNC8...ookBooklet.pdf

Two of my BP meds are free at Publix.

Telmisartan has been around since 1998.
 
Old 07-22-2016, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by Cida View Post
Ask Your Doctor if This Ad Is Right for You
By Elisabeth Rosenthal

The health care industry spent $14 billion on advertising in 2014, according to Kantar Media, a jump of nearly 20 percent since 2011. That includes over-the-counter medications, but not sponsorships (the Super Bowl had two health care systems as partners). While magazine advertising has dropped off somewhat with the withering of the publishing industry, television advertising has risen 55 percent for hospitals and 30 percent for prescription drugs in that period.
Doctors would be thrilled if there were no prescription drug advertising.

AMA Calls for Ban on Direct to Consumer Advertising of Prescription Drugs and Medical Devices

Allowing doctors and hospitals to advertise was predicated on the idea that competition would lower prices. It has not done that.
 
Old 07-22-2016, 11:37 PM
 
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On the 115/75 guideline, here is where I've read it.

Best Drug To Treat Hypertension - Life Extension
 
Old 07-23-2016, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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On the 115/75 guideline, here is where I've read it.

Best Drug To Treat Hypertension - Life Extension

You will note that that number is the opinion of the writer of the article. It is not the recommended blood pressure goal for treated hypertension.

For many folks, 115/75 would be too low, with a risk of dizziness and fainting, particularly older people.

"If you're a healthy adult younger than age 60, or if you have chronic kidney disease, diabetes or coronary artery disease, your treatment goal is less than 140/90 mm Hg. If you're a healthy adult age 60 or older, your treatment goal is less than 150/90 mm Hg."


Blood pressure chart: What your reading means - Mayo Clinic
 
Old 07-23-2016, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Doctors would be thrilled if there were no prescription drug advertising.

AMA Calls for Ban on Direct to Consumer Advertising of Prescription Drugs and Medical Devices

Allowing doctors and hospitals to advertise was predicated on the idea that competition would lower prices. It has not done that.
For the person who left the unsigned rep asking how I know doctors would be thrilled if there were no prescription drug advertising, read the link. The AMA has called for a ban on direct to consumer drug advertising.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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On the 115/75 guideline, here is where I've read it.

Best Drug To Treat Hypertension - Life Extension
As suzy has already pointed out...not a "guideline" just an opinion along with the recommendation for the drug you howled about...neither the "opinion" nor the "drug" is pushed by conventional MD's

It does seem funny that you are howling about these opinions when they come from a supplement guru and known quack from the odious Life Extension Foundation like William Faloon...

I would think you would be buying anything he's selling.....opinions included....
 
Old 07-23-2016, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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As suzy has already pointed out...not a "guideline" just an opinion along with the recommendation for the drug you howled about...neither the "opinion" nor the "drug" is pushed by conventional MD's

It does seem funny that you are howling about these opinions when they come from a supplement guru and known quack from the odious Life Extension Foundation like William Faloon...

I would think you would be buying anything he's selling.....opinions included....
Well to be honest, I questioned that too about Faloon's works. But I don't make claims to know it all.
 
Old 07-23-2016, 10:47 AM
 
Location: California
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It is no secret that doctors have a financial interest in selling their patients expensive new drugs, now many made in china, so we avoid them as much as possible, regardless of the marketing media non sense. They make billions by scaring people into thinking that have some magic cure which in some cases will make you worse. Nothing new, it has been around for centuries.
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