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Old 05-27-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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Of course I tried having a conversation with her, but she was not interested. At the time when I was in her office, I had no idea Chinese medicine could be adulterated. But, naturally, I still tried talking to her about that, and whatever else might have suddenly caused high cholesterol.

I also tried talking about the ratio, and the fact that my HDL is extremely high. Therefore the ratio is very low, and the risk is supposedly very low.

All she wanted to do is prescribe drugs and hurry off to the next patient.
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Old 05-27-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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Also, as I have said already, she did not ask about my lifestyle, had no interest in that. She was overweight and obviously not interested in health, in spite of being a medical professional.
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Old 05-27-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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Of course I tried having a conversation with her, but she was not interested. At the time when I was in her office, I had no idea Chinese medicine could be adulterated. But, naturally, I still tried talking to her about that, and whatever else might have suddenly caused high cholesterol.

I also tried talking about the ratio, and the fact that my HDL is extremely high. Therefore the ratio is very low, and the risk is supposedly very low.

All she wanted to do is prescribe drugs and hurry off to the next patient.


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Old 05-27-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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I fire bad doctors, you had a bad doctor.
Well you must have not have read most of what I wrote. You are determined to argue with me, without even knowing what I said.

I saw that doctor ONCE and never went back. After 2 months I went to a different doctor to get blood tests. He said my cholesterol is great, no problem at all. It is 30 points lower now than 3 months ago, but the HDL is still high. High HDL is NOT a risk factor.

The overweight ignorant doctor did not know that. They are telling doctors to look at the total cholesterol number, and give statins to anyone over age 40 whose total cholesterol is high. And, of course, she does whatever the medical industry says.
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Old 05-27-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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And I had previously told the story of my friend whose doctor scared her into taking statins for a month. My friend got muscle problems right away. She did some research and found out her cholesterol was high because her thyroid medication was wrong. She got it straightened out and her cholesterol went back to normal.

If she had just trusted her doctor, she would have continued statins, for no benefit at all, only harm.
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Old 05-27-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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Well you must have not have read most of what I wrote. You are determined to argue with me, without even knowing what I said.

I saw that doctor ONCE and never went back. After 2 months I went to a different doctor to get blood tests. He said my cholesterol is great, no problem at all. It is 30 points lower now than 3 months ago, but the HDL is still high. High HDL is NOT a risk factor.

The overweight ignorant doctor did not know that. They are telling doctors to look at the total cholesterol number, and give statins to anyone over age 40 whose total cholesterol is high. And, of course, she does whatever the medical industry says.
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My point is that one poor doctor is not an indictment against all doctors - they are merely a bad doctor.

You applied your situation to "Doctors" across the board.

I'm really glad you learned supplements can have problems and not to trust everyone who tries to sell you something, I'm glad you left the bad doctor and got a better one.
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Old 05-27-2017, 01:35 PM
 
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I think that before any statins are prescribed, the patient should have a heart scan. We luckily got one for $49 at a local hospital and found my husband really needed a cardiologist even though he appears in great health. He had significant calcium build up and a low dose of statin has helped reduce his genetically high cholesterol readings. I had zero calcium and the cardiologist said no statins necessary even though primary care doctor continues to prescribe them (I am not compliant.)
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Old 05-27-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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The only thing I could think of that changed in my life between my last blood test and this one was that I took Chinese herbal medicine for 8 months. I have skin problems and an acupuncturist told me the herbal medicine would cure any kind of skin problems (no, it won't).

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So I guess I am slowly recovering from the Chinese herbs.
You still don't know whether the herbal formula was the culprit. You just went off of general information and made that assumption. It may be just a coincidence. Your dosage may have been excessive. A lot of people use topical creams with no side effects.

The other question is why you are taking the herbal medicine when you claim it doesn't work.

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Old 05-27-2017, 07:43 PM
 
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You still don't know whether the herbal formula was the culprit. You just went off of general information and made that assumption. It may be just a coincidence. Your dosage may have been excessive. A lot of people use topical creams with no side effects.

The other question is why you are taking the herbal medicine when you claim it doesn't work.
I am not taking it. I said I stopped taking it 2 months ago.

And I did not assume Chinese medicine definitely caused the high cholesterol and low vitamin D. It could possibly be a very odd coincidence. The medicine was not topical, I was taking it 3 times every day. There was no ingredient list.

I wrote to the acupuncturist and asked for the ingredients list, which he sent, But of course he doesn't know, or wouldn't tell me if he did know, if it contained steroids.

I never had high cholesterol in my life, neither LDL or HDL. Then suddenly both were high, and vitamin D was low. I am out in the sun about 2 hours every day. High cholesterol and low vitamin D are typical side effects of steroids.

So, either a very bizarre coincidence, or my sensible hypothesis.
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Old 05-27-2017, 07:45 PM
 
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My point is that one poor doctor is not an indictment against all doctors - they are merely a bad doctor.

You applied your situation to "Doctors" across the board.

I'm really glad you learned supplements can have problems and not to trust everyone who tries to sell you something, I'm glad you left the bad doctor and got a better one.
This bad doctor experience is just added to other experiences I had, and people I know had, and experiences I read about. In addition, to the various guidelines, some of which recommend statins for about half of people over age 40.

The over-use of statins, and other drugs, is extremely widespread and is promoted by the medical industry. And too many Americans fall for it.
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