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Old 08-10-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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And asthma isn't about "weak lungs". It's about how one's lungs respond, or more appropriately over respond, to irritants and allergens.
"weak lungs" ROTFL. I haven't heard that one outside some 19th century gothic novel.

I had pretty severe asthma as a child, but after going through allergen sensitivity testing to figure out the triggers, using medication, and knowing many of these sensitivities would be outgrown, it disappeared for over 40 years. Over the years had several bouts of pneumonia, lots of bronchitis so I know there's a pattern of respiratory overreactivity. Its a piece of knowledge to file away and it also changes how I treat a cold or flu (hardly ever get them). Once in a while I'll get an asthmatic reaction to something but its very closely tied to a specific location. I have an inhaler but needing it is very situational, not chronic thankfully. Getting good diagnostic information made all the difference. Understanding what's going on reduces the panic the person feels during a severe attack, and that is super important for getting over it.
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Old 08-10-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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]"weak lungs" ROTFL. I haven't heard that one outside some 19th century gothic novel.[/b]

I had pretty severe asthma as a child, but after going through allergen sensitivity testing to figure out the triggers, using medication, and knowing many of these sensitivities would be outgrown, it disappeared for over 40 years. Over the years had several bouts of pneumonia, lots of bronchitis so I know there's a pattern of respiratory overreactivity. Its a piece of knowledge to file away and it also changes how I treat a cold or flu (hardly ever get them). Once in a while I'll get an asthmatic reaction to something but its very closely tied to a specific location. I have an inhaler but needing it is very situational, not chronic thankfully. Getting good diagnostic information made all the difference. Understanding what's going on reduces the panic the person feels during a severe attack, and that is super important for getting over it.

Me either. Maybe it's not "weak lungs", but simply a case of the "vapors" another popular 19th century gothic novel diagnosis.
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Old 08-10-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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How about weakened immune system. And many do have a weakness in the lungs. Weak immune system connection.
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Old 08-10-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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Me either. Maybe it's not "weak lungs", but simply a case of the "vapors" another popular 19th century gothic novel diagnosis.
HAHAHAHA! I always attributed that to whalebone corsets and inability to take a breath! So, to take this to an odd extreme, I wonder if the corsets and figure distortion were really fashion requirements or an underhanded way for ditzy women to get out of the harder aspects of life and force men to handle all that for them? Which came first? Who manipulated whom? Just joking here. No feminism intended.
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Old 08-10-2017, 01:05 PM
 
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How about weakened immune system. And many do have a weakness in the lungs. Weak immune system connection.

The point was that while some people do have suboptimal lung function, it's caused by specific diseases and disorders and not by "weak lungs". That's an archaic and meaningless phrase used prior to modern diagnostics that can pinpoint the cause of poor lung function.
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Old 08-10-2017, 01:17 PM
 
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The point was that while some people do have suboptimal lung function, it's caused by specific diseases and disorders and not by "weak lungs". That's an archaic and meaningless phrase used prior to modern diagnostics that can pinpoint the cause of poor lung function.
The phrase "weakened immune system" is also too vague to be very useful. Easy to blame, hard to disprove catch-all for undiagnosed specifics.

Still love "the vapors" though. If you want to enjoy more archaic medical terms, go read James Herriot's novels about veterinary medicine in 1930's Yorkshire (All Creatures Great and Small, etc). The farmers' lexicon of livestock illnesses and their causes is hilarious. Stagnation o' t' Lungs and Black Rot come to mind.
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:12 AM
 
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I know I developed asthma after I had double pneumonia several years ago and I still have sinus and respiratory problems so much so that I wear a medical mask in the winter because I'm so susceptible to colds and flu bugs and it gets worse every year if I catch a cold or the flu . If I get a cold or the flu the asthma tends to be kicking up worse . I go outside and garden and that helps to clear out my lungs . I think once you get something like pneumonia then it leaves a lasting problem .I also have to use an inhaler should it get worse .
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:51 PM
 
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I've had asthma since I was a young kid, but it seems to have gotten worse as an adult, even with medication. I've been using a corticosteroid morning and night, and a rescue inhaler (albuterol) more often than before. I'm only in my 20s, but sometimes I feel like I'm going to die an early death because of this disease! I have an appointment with my doctor next week to see if something else may work better. I can totally sympathize with other asthmatics, because it's a really awful feeling when you can't breathe!
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Old 08-11-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: San Bernardino County (previously L.A.)
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Good discussion guys! Thanks a lot for the info, any other comments?

My dr nor I still haven't determined how during the same month I turned 42 (about 2 wks after my birthday on Jan 16th of this year), HOW this allergic asthma (as this renown pulmonologist's diagnosis stated), started up VERY, VERY suddenly out of the blue. I never smoked, drank, etc. Never had asthma, any known allergies, sinus or any other respiratory issues, no pneumonia, etc., never even had a cold or flu in the last 1-2 yrs prior (& still never got a cold yet nowadays).

Also, I've lived here in southern CA my entire life, so it's not like I moved to some area w/ a different air quality. I've lived in the same apt for the last 5 yrs now.

All I can say is, I guess things just happen as we age. Fortunately, I haven't had to use my inhaler(s) now since about the 3rd week of June, but I'm saving up a supply in case I need it. I notice these inhalers' expirations dates are about 1 - 1.5 yrs after you obtain them, so that's not bad regarding how long you can hold onto them.

Can anyone give any input regarding the differences between the inhalers Asmanex Twisthaler (AT) AND Pulmicort Flexhaler (PF)? All I know is the latter one (PF) is milder, even though they both have steroid ingredient in them. (My dr said the PF is mild enough that it can be used by pregnant women.)

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Thinking about this asthma people had since they were kids gets to wonder did their mothers smoke while carrying the children. I worked at a company yrs ago and a woman who was about 40 or a little younger and smoked and then came up pregnant in her 2nd marriage and she never quit smoking. I am long gone from that company but wonder if her baby was born with weak lungs. I couldn't believe my eyes when she would get up and go outside to smoke.

My siblings and I were saved as neither parent smoked.
I've never smoked myself nor my parents, nor does anyone around me smoke whatsoever now. But, yes, I wonder that too. But, it seems dust mites are the main cause from what' I've read, I think.

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Did you recently get a memory foam mattress or pillows? They can be very toxic to some people and asthma is a symptom they can cause.
No, but thanks for bringing it up!

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And knowing a world class pulmonologist makes the best difference. I'm sure as world class athletes they and their doctors know the best methods for treating asthma and achieving peak athletic performance.
I agree. I'm sure Olympic & other world-class pro athletes know all THE TOP doctors, surgeons, nutritionists/dieticians, holistic specialists, trainers, etc., etc., etc., so their bodies are operating in the best shape possible. If they had any medical conditions that affect their athletic performance, they would have sought out help from the beginning.
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Old 08-11-2017, 01:40 PM
 
Location: San Bernardino County (previously L.A.)
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I've had asthma since I was a young kid, but it seems to have gotten worse as an adult, even with medication. I've been using a corticosteroid morning and night, and a rescue inhaler (albuterol) more often than before. I'm only in my 20s, but sometimes I feel like I'm going to die an early death because of this disease! I have an appointment with my doctor next week to see if something else may work better. I can totally sympathize with other asthmatics, because it's a really awful feeling when you can't breathe!
YES, it sure IS scary! When this "mysterious breathing issue" was going on w/ me a some months ago BEFORE I was prescribed any inhalers, there were about 4-6 random nights when it was late like the 11pm hr when I couldn't breathe well & feared what if I had to dial 911 OR was here at home alone when something happened to me, etc.?
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