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Old 09-04-2017, 01:14 AM
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Location: Los Angeles
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I think pill mills are the biggest reason for the explosion of Vicodin and other opiates. They were and maybe still are big in Florida and some other states. Its just a storefront with an onsite doctor that would write you a scrip for whatever pain you had and then you filled the scrip there as well.
Some people really enjoy the way they feel on the pills and when their scrip runs out they try and get more from their doctor. Real doctors will evaluate whether you really need the pills or not. Pill Mill doctors will just keep writing scrips.
The DEA is doing a good job at finding the bad doctors and sadly many were in Ohio and those states where they have had problems. I went to the DEA site to look up the cases they are dealing with. Why a doctor would risk losing their license is beyond me.
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Old 09-09-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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Someone mentioned on this thread that "Pot" would be a better alternative than opioids. Well, my Internist is also a Pulmonary Specialist and I asked her about doing the pot and it was a "No" - She had seen too many with lung issues from smoking pot. Smoking the pot is the only effective way to get relief from the pain.
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You're aware of the thc patches and creams that are available now? Two people have told me the cream works well for them. Hard for me to imagine a topical cream could be much help but looks like for some people it is.
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Old 09-09-2017, 02:54 PM
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I'm not supposed to have percoset or vikodin or codeine because it makes me itch and sometimes makes me nauseated. Demerol doesn't do either. But doctors won't prescribe demerol anymore so I take vikodin when I had knee surgery and dental surgery. They always give me more than I need but that's good. I save the rest for when my back goes out, usually just one day, a couple times a year.
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Old 09-09-2017, 04:19 PM
 
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Just a reminder about my case...I have RSD and there is no cure. Taking Fentanyl now for 10 yrs seems to be the only thing that keeps my pain at ease. It does not take away all the pain but it makes life tolerable for me and for getting around. I am proud of myself for not exceeding 50MCG BUT for others they may need more and should not be made to feel shame. As long as they are being checked often by their physician and following the right protocol people should not treat them as if they are drug addicts. Pharmacies have been known to do this...I have used the same pharmacy for years and am lucky as no one has disrespected me but I hear horror stories. Those are the people I will fight for.

My patch has to be changed every 72 hrs. I notice myself starting withdrawals right towards the very end. Not a good feeling but I'm a strong woman and will fight on at this dose that I am at. It's really important to change your patch right at the same time but I can go a couple of hours and do notice a change in how I feel.

I am blessed to have a great team of doctors who look after me. I also have Type 2 Diabetes as well as Disc disease. The RSD is VERY painful. Constant burning - deep pain. Not fun at all. The Fibromyalgia is tough as well and of course affects my joints/muscles. I never in a million years expected to end up with all of this. I always took good care of myself. My world came crashing down in 2004 when I was being diagnosed . I was also in and out of the hospital and they were trying to figure out what was wrong with me. I would not wish all of this on my worse enemy.

I wish the media would stop the hysteria. As I have stated before many of the kids who have overdosed have used street drugs - gone to heroin which is often laced with some bad stuff. Someone mentioned on this thread that "Pot" would be a better alternative than opioids. Well, my Internist is also a Pulmonary Specialist and I asked her about doing the pot and it was a "No" - She had seen too many with lung issues from smoking pot. Smoking the pot is the only effective way to get relief from the pain.

Parents who use narcotics for pain need to be responsible and keep medications locked up - this is also how kids start out by getting into their parents stuff that might be left over from an injury. So many variables and again, the media is not focusing on patients who have been taking their medications (Opioids) as prescribed for years and have NOT OD'd....

I guarantee it won't be long until your Fentanyl patch comes into question...sadly, it's the way it is now...

And Fibro, is the kiss of death for pain meds.
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Old 09-09-2017, 11:15 PM
 
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I'm not supposed to have percoset or vikodin or codeine because it makes me itch and sometimes makes me nauseated. Demerol doesn't do either. But doctors won't prescribe demerol anymore so I take vikodin when I had knee surgery and dental surgery. They always give me more than I need but that's good. I save the rest for when my back goes out, usually just one day, a couple times a year.
I find that very difficult to believe, Lizzie. In fact I find that impossible to believe.

All Dr's prescribing habits for Scheduled drugs go directly to the FDA and if a doc is prescribing you "more than I need" then you can bet your bottom dollar the DEA is going to come knocking on their door (probably yours too) very shortly to arrest them. And don't think they don't know that. Every doctor in America knows that the quickest surest way to land in prison is to be prescribing copious amounts of opioid painkillers, which is why I think you're yanking our collective chains.
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Old 09-10-2017, 05:23 AM
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I find that very difficult to believe, Lizzie. In fact I find that impossible to believe.

All Dr's prescribing habits for Scheduled drugs go directly to the FDA and if a doc is prescribing you "more than I need" then you can bet your bottom dollar the DEA is going to come knocking on their door (probably yours too) very shortly to arrest them. And don't think they don't know that. Every doctor in America knows that the quickest surest way to land in prison is to be prescribing copious amounts of opioid painkillers, which is why I think you're yanking our collective chains.
I think your idea of "more than I need" is different from mine. When I had knee surgery they estimated I'd need pain meds for 5 days. The recommended dosage is 1 every 4-6 hours. So that's 4-5 per day, or 25 pills maximum total. That was how many were in the bottle. But I also take sleep meds so didn't need one in the middle of the night. I needed 3 the first day when I had the surgery. Not 5. Second day needed 4. Third, needed 4. Fourth, only 3. Fifth, I had one in the middle of the day and didn't need more. That means I had 10 left over at the end of the 5th day that I never bothered to take, that was made available to me because that was how many they estimated I might actually need during the first days of recovery.
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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I think your idea of "more than I need" is different from mine. When I had knee surgery they estimated I'd need pain meds for 5 days. The recommended dosage is 1 every 4-6 hours. So that's 4-5 per day, or 25 pills maximum total. That was how many were in the bottle. But I also take sleep meds so didn't need one in the middle of the night. I needed 3 the first day when I had the surgery. Not 5. Second day needed 4. Third, needed 4. Fourth, only 3. Fifth, I had one in the middle of the day and didn't need more. That means I had 10 left over at the end of the 5th day that I never bothered to take, that was made available to me because that was how many they estimated I might actually need during the first days of recovery.

I misunderstood. Sorry.
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:16 PM
 
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Some might find this interesting. In 2016 the FDA ordered cuts of 25% in opioid production in the US for 2017. Now it is ordering further cuts in opioid production of 20% for 2018. Who knows how much father the FDA will carry this but that boils down to opioid production cut nearly in half in just two years. More cuts are sure to follow. I hope Americans see the writing on the wall. The FDA is intent on completely eliminating opioid painkillers in this country. Already many pharmacies have stopped carrying them. Many others will not fill prescriptions citing lack of stock at this time or because they just feel uncomfortable filling it.

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DEA Proposes Significant Cuts to Opioid Production in 2018

The US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is proposing to significantly reduce the amount of opioids produced in 2018.
The proposal to cut opioid production by 20%, published in the Federal Register on August 7, comes on the heels of a 25% or more reduction in opioid production in 2017.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/884055
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:29 PM
 
Location: N of citrus, S of decent corn
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My husband's doctor said that no one gets high from narcotics, unless they are not in pain. He has a pain management doctor, for mostly neck pain. The strongest thing he takes is tramodol, but he takes a ton of ibuprofen too. My question is, why can't he just take a pill that might be a narcotic?

I think his needs are not served very well.
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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My husband's doctor said that no one gets high from narcotics, unless they are not in pain. He has a pain management doctor, for mostly neck pain. The strongest thing he takes is tramodol, but he takes a ton of ibuprofen too. My question is, why can't he just take a pill that might be a narcotic?

I think his needs are not served very well.

Have him take a tylenol with the tramado, that makes Ultracet. It seems to work better.
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