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I'm a recovered alcoholic, I could defeat any of those surveys because they are not composed by real alcoholics, they are written by non alcoholics who don't even know what alcoholism is.
The only experts I've met were in AA, the big book of AA has a simple question, not a questionaire or survey. All it takes is a simple 2 part question that goes right to the heart of the problem.
Its in the first paragraph on page 44.
"If when you honestly want to...."
"....if when drinking, you have little control over the amount you take, you are probably alcoholic. If that be the case, you may be suffering from an illness which only a spiritual experience will conquer."
That is a crock of crap. After 25 years of severe alcoholism I knew I had to stop. No spiritual experience, no meetings, no "birthdays," and I can't even tell you the exact date I took my last drink, but it has been over 20 years. I just stopped.
"....if when drinking, you have little control over the amount you take, you are probably alcoholic. If that be the case, you may be suffering from an illness which only a spiritual experience will conquer."
That is a crock of crap. After 25 years of severe alcoholism I knew I had to stop. No spiritual experience, no meetings, no "birthdays," and I can't even tell you the exact date I took my last drink, but it has been over 20 years. I just stopped.
Don in Austin
I have a friend who just stopped too without looking to a higher power. No AA, No rehab, he just quit. He is an exception as you are. As an Atheist I get your point. However for some people looking to something that they believe is a higher power that they can draw upon for strength is not a bad thing. If that so called higher power allows them to dry out and get healthy then I dont think it qualifies as crap.
I have a friend who just stopped too without looking to a higher power. No AA, No rehab, he just quit. He is an exception as you are. As an Atheist I get your point. However for some people looking to something that they believe is a higher power that they can draw upon for strength is not a bad thing. If that so called higher power allows them to dry out and get healthy then I dont think it qualifies as crap.
By all means every individual should do whatever it takes to lead a sober life. If that means AA, fine! That is not what I meant by "crap." What is crap to me is the idea that you can't get sober without a program like AA or spiritual experience. To quote, with emphasis added, "an illness which ONLY a spiritual experience will conquer." "Only" is absolutely untrue.
By all means every individual should do whatever it takes to lead a sober life. If that means AA, fine! That is not what I meant by "crap." What is crap to me is the idea that you can't get sober without a program like AA or spiritual experience. I am not alone in my method.
Don
My dad drank every day, not during day, but after dinner and evenings at his bar, he owned one. He never quit and lived into 90's...provided for his family and the persons he hurt most, were his family.
For years I've drank every night until I buzzed hard. Now I just stopped for 3 days, and while I have to fight a temptation, I have no withdraws. I actually feel amazing. My mouth isn't dry at night, I'm not dehydrated when sleeping, I sleep better, I feel better in the morning, I've lost a few pounds, my blood pressure feels lower in the evenings, and I feel happier during the day! I was never under the impression I would feel so much better. Especially not being an alcoholic. Has anyone else had similar experiences?
The real test, according to Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob, who wrote most of the Big Book, is to see if after the recommendation on page 44, is to leave alcohol COMPLETELY alone for ONE year.
Not just a few weekdays. Try it and see how much difficulty you have. I sure did and until a total psychic change happens, the terrible problem persists.
Your friends are waiting at your nearest AA Meeting 🙂
36. Now I go without drinking anything 2-3 nights per week. Drink a small amount 2-3 nights. And drink for a hard buzz 1 night
Whether seven nights a week, three nights a week, or one night a week, if you're still drinking for a "hard buzz" – you're playing games with yourself.
36. Now I go without drinking anything 2-3 nights per week. Drink a small amount 2-3 nights. And drink for a hard buzz 1 night
Sounds like a drinking problem to me.
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