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Old 02-07-2018, 05:12 PM
 
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Old 02-07-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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There are so many stories out there and lost lives. My family had it's own and loved one spent 13 months in rehab due to opiod addiction.

Here in LA, homeless issues is forever on the news, over 50,000 on the streets and from what news people reporting this info, addiction is wide spread and so much started with opiod addiction. Many other stores too but the drug addictions are huge issues.

With my recent knee issue, long story, I was so happy to get off that pain med.
 
Old 02-11-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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What really made the heroin epidemic so bad was the crackdown on legal opiate painkillers back in 2012. Most addicts then were content taking pills obtained thru a doctor or buying them from someone who had a script, once the DEA put a stop to this, all the addicts switched to readily available (and cheap) heroin.

It may be hard to admit, but addicts were actually safer taking/ abusing opioid pills versus heroin bought on the street, at least with the pills, they knew what they were getting and taking. with heroin, it could have anything under the kitchen sink added to it.

From what I have seen and experienced, the DEA is the most corrupt agency out there, they need to be dissolved immediately. They are nothing but lobbyists for the drug cartels.
 
Old 02-11-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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What really made the heroin epidemic so bad was the crackdown on legal opiate painkillers back in 2012. Most addicts then were content taking pills obtained thru a doctor or buying them from someone who had a script, once the DEA put a stop to this, all the addicts switched to readily available (and cheap) heroin.

It may be hard to admit, but addicts were actually safer taking/ abusing opioid pills versus heroin bought on the street, at least with the pills, they knew what they were getting and taking. with heroin, it could have anything under the kitchen sink added to it.

From what I have seen and experienced, the DEA is the most corrupt agency out there, they need to be dissolved immediately. They are nothing but lobbyists for the drug cartels.
Many here are being offered help to get off their addictions and they refuse. It's totally obscene all these souls laying on the streets with their addictions.
 
Old 02-11-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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Many here are being offered help to get off their addictions and they refuse. It's totally obscene all these souls laying on the streets with their addictions.
If you personally have never had a drug or alcohol addiction, you should not comment. It's not easy to just stop.
 
Old 02-11-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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What really made the heroin epidemic so bad was the crackdown on legal opiate painkillers back in 2012. Most addicts then were content taking pills obtained thru a doctor or buying them from someone who had a script, once the DEA put a stop to this, all the addicts switched to readily available (and cheap) heroin.

It may be hard to admit, but addicts were actually safer taking/ abusing opioid pills versus heroin bought on the street, at least with the pills, they knew what they were getting and taking. with heroin, it could have anything under the kitchen sink added to it.

From what I have seen and experienced, the DEA is the most corrupt agency out there, they need to be dissolved immediately. They are nothing but lobbyists for the drug cartels.
But they were still addicted to something that ruined their health, ruined their family life, probably cost them careers even though they were "safer". Having any substance control your life to the point that you can do nothing except crave it isn't any way to live. Is the problem more acceptable if its out of sight? Addicts tucked safely inside their homes getting their fix by prescription instead of roaming the streets? The problem isn't so simple that it can be pinned on one thing like a corrupt DEA. If it was, it would be easier to solve with a stroke of a pen.
 
Old 02-11-2018, 03:16 PM
 
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If you personally have never had a drug or alcohol addiction, you should not comment. It's not easy to just stop.
These people are being given chances, I had a family member very addicted to opioids and she finally thru a somewhat intervention spent 13 months in rehab facility. I've seen it, lived it thru family member and I hear it every day on the news how people on the streets are being approached to be helped. It's not about me that I'm commenting on. I've heard plenty of stories on addictions, and how terribly difficult it is to break them. I lived a lot of my life with a family member alcoholic..Oh, I've seen it. And I've been in AA rooms hearing stories of success.

My grandkids lost their alcohol, nicotine, addicted father due to cancer from these addictions...Oh I've seen it.

Why can't I comment?

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Old 02-11-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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Regardless of the substance dealing with an addict is tough. You have the voice of reason in your head. In their head is what they need and how to get it. You get worn down over time living with or being related to an addict. I was not successful in helping a life long addict. I just ended up putting time and distance between us. Short of forced rehab some will never recover and even then, its just time between rehabs. I feel for anyone who loves an addict.
 
Old 02-11-2018, 03:41 PM
 
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Why can't I comment?
It's not that you can't comment, you just can't comment with much understanding or knowledge on the situation. If you personally have never been through addiction yourself, you don't understand why "they" can't just stop the pills. You might have seen it and heard about it in the AA rooms, but that isn't something you yourself went through. Believe me, it's just different.
 
Old 02-11-2018, 03:44 PM
 
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It's not that you can't comment, you just can't comment with much understanding on the situation. If you personally have never been through addiction yourself, you don't understand why "they" can't just stop the pills. You might have seen it and heard about it in the AA rooms, but that isn't something you yourself went through. Believe me, it's just different.
You said "you should not comment".

And many do beat their addictions. Why are all the AA rooms filled with success stories and comments like: keep coming back, it works if you work it.

And no I don't live in the skin of one who is addicted. I probably was to sugars in my young yrs but not now.

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