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Old 02-17-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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That is not how the immune system works. For one thing, everyone who doesn't live in a bubble wrap is exposed to many different antigens every day. Everyone's immune system has "opportunity" to get a work out every single day.

The only way to get immunity to flu is to either get the disease or get the vaccine. There is no other way.

Washing with soap and water is preferable to hand sanitizer, but handwashing is important. This "hygiene hypothesis" about playing in dirt and then not washing hands being beneficial is not established fact.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448690/
The above is lengthy and dry, but worth reading.
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I do notice that, and in particular I'm thinking about one family in our social circle who has been notorious for years because all of them are sick, all the time. Both parents and both kids have asthma. They all get the flu just about every year. When they get colds, they always end up with secondary bacterial infections and need antibiotics. And it goes on! We still invite them to do things with us, but we realize that 50% of the time, they will cancel because one or more of them is sick.

You might think there is a genetic component, but both kids are adopted and were not blood siblings. So here we have four people, none of who are related to each other, but who live in the same house and are all sick much more than average. I'm thinking there must be an environmental factor, but I'm darned if I know what it could be.
I don't know. I know some people who constantly bleach and sanitize everything. They are constantly sick and the kids are always at the doctor.
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Old 02-22-2018, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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- I don't work outside of the home at this time, so that cuts down on being around a LOT of (sick) people!

- Eat out less & try to just be out in public less than usual.

I do this, but most people don't & I HATE that they do it: When I'm in line anywhere, people stand so close to me. I keep my distance from the person in front of me, but then the person behind me is right up on me & if they cough/sneeze, which they will eventually, their germs go right in my face! I wish people would step the f back!!!!!

(I've never gotten a flu shot in my entire life, BTW & I still won't now.)
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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- I don't work outside of the home at this time, so that cuts down on being around a LOT of (sick) people!

- Eat out less & try to just be out in public less than usual.

I do this, but most people don't & I HATE that they do it: When I'm in line anywhere, people stand so close to me. I keep my distance from the person in front of me, but then the person behind me is right up on me & if they cough/sneeze, which they will eventually, their germs go right in my face! I wish people would step the f back!!!!!

(I've never gotten a flu shot in my entire life, BTW & I still won't now.)
If someone is standing in line BEHIND you how exactly do the "germs" from the "eventual" cough or sneeze end up in your face?
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Old 02-25-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If someone is standing in line BEHIND you how exactly do the "germs" from the "eventual" cough or sneeze end up in your face?
They do disperse, and not just from coughing and sneezing. Just breathing spreads the viruses.
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Old 02-26-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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I don't know. I know some people who constantly bleach and sanitize everything. They are constantly sick and the kids are always at the doctor.
I know those people too.

And the *dirty* ones are never sick. Go figure. Shocking how the immune system gets stronger and stronger when it is allowed to do its job.

People who jump from antibiotic to antibiotic are always the sickest. Their immune systems are destroyed from all the antibiotics, gut microbiome so off kilter as to be useless. So they get sick and just go get more antibiotics ... and then they get sick .. and well, you know how the song goes ...
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Old 02-26-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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[quote=newtovenice;51152670]I know those people too.

And the *dirty* ones are never sick. Go figure. Shocking how the immune system gets stronger and stronger when it is allowed to do its job.

People who jump from antibiotic to antibiotic are always the sickest. Their immune systems are destroyed from all the antibiotics, gut microbiome so off kilter as to be useless. So they get sick and just go get more antibiotics ... and then they get sick .. and well, you know how the song goes ...[/Q

Oh, now, you can be within 5 feet of someone not sneezing or coughing but just BREATHING and they can make you sick. Better not go on any check out line. Not just other people in line next to you, but the CASHIER might be sick too. Breathing same air as them and TOUCHING your grocery items! Go on the Self Check Out Machines, but make sure to disinfect them first!!!!!!

Sorry, Katrina, this is no way to live being in fear of living among other people.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:38 PM
 
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I will seek and find you.

I shall take you to bed, and have my way with you.

I will make you ache, shake & sweat until you moan & groan.

I will make you beg for mercy, beg for me to stop.

I will exhaust you to the point that you will be relieved when I'm finished with you.

And, when I am finished, you will be weak for days.

All my love,

The Flu (If you don't want me, get vaccinated)
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I will seek and find you.

I shall take you to bed, and have my way with you.

I will make you ache, shake & sweat until you moan & groan.

I will make you beg for mercy, beg for me to stop.

I will exhaust you to the point that you will be relieved when I'm finished with you.

And, when I am finished, you will be weak for days.

All my love,

The Flu (If you don't want me, get vaccinated)
LOL!

I owe you a rep!
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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LOL!

I owe you a rep!

I gave him a drive-by.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:51 PM
 
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LOL!

I owe you a rep!
Same here
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