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Old 03-17-2018, 10:09 PM
 
Location: southern born and southern bred
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But, no one disputes that many doctors hand out narcs like candy
I dispute it. Maybe there are some low life dirt bags who do so but the doctors I use need to grow a set and stand up to these agencies who are curtailing the writing of pain meds to those who need them. Both my parents are older now, suffer from varying things and for real need pain pills. Do they get them? NO!
Why? Doctors around here are afraid to help their suffering patients because of the veiled threats from various govt. agencies.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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I dispute it. Maybe there are some low life dirt bags who do so but the doctors I use need to grow a set and stand up to these agencies who are curtailing the writing of pain meds to those who need them. Both my parents are older now, suffer from varying things and for real need pain pills. Do they get them? NO!
Why? Doctors around here are afraid to help their suffering patients because of the veiled threats from various govt. agencies.
This is absolutely true. The place I go to the doctor when I am sick with an infection or something has a large sign that says WE DO NOT PRESCRIBE ANY PAIN MEDICATIONS - IF YOU NEED PAIN MEDICINE, YOU SHOULD SEE A PAIN SPECIALIST. I think most general practitioners will not prescribe pain medication for the reason you stated, they are worried about losing their license. I've been in pain for years and wouldn't even think of asking a doctor for any pain medicine that I can't already buy over the counter because I know the answer is NO.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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Feds say 5 NYC doctors took bribes from drug maker to prescribe opioid

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...scribe-n857476
In any other field it would be called a commission and be perfectly legal.

Bad, but legal.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Wine Country
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I see a neurologist for neuropathy pain. They prescribe me Vicodin when I say I need it, which is not that often. A bottle can last me a long time because I only take it when I have breakthrough pain. They gave me a prescription for it the other day, my last one was in November, and I had to go to the lab next-door and have a urine test. They said that urine tests are now required for all pain med refills. This was a first for me, and you can bet I wont be in a hurry to get anymore pills if ever. I haven't seen the bill for my urine test but I am sure it will be ridiculous.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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I dispute it. .
Good for you

I am a pharmacist that recently worked at a pharmacy that filled 4-600+ Rxs a day. 90% of the bad narc Rxs came i from quacks that were over 100 miles a way. Pay doc 100 and get Rxs with not even seeing them

This is a massive problem in OH, KY, WV and surrounding areas

There are also several local docs that everyone knows have heavy hands is selling Rxs



But thanks to OARRS, things are looking better
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:18 PM
 
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At my 50th high school reunion a friend asked me, 'Why didn't we have a drug problem when we were growing up?'

I replied that I had a drug problem when I was young:

I was drug to church on Sunday morning.

I was drug to church for weddings and funerals.

I was drug to family reunions and community socials no matter the weather.

I was drug by my ears when I was disrespectful to adults.

I was also drug to the woodshed when I disobeyed my parents, told a lie, brought home a bad report card, did not speak with respect, spoke ill of the teacher or the pastor, or if I didn't put forth my best effort in everything that was asked of me.

I was drug to the kitchen sink to have my mouth washed out with soap if I uttered a profanity.

I was drug out to pull weeds in mom's garden and flower beds.

I was drug to the homes of neighbors to help mow the yard, repair the clothesline, and if my mother had ever known that I took a single dime as a tip for this kindness, my dad would have drug me back to the woodshed.

Those drugs are still in my veins and they affect my behavior in everything I do, say, or think.

They are stronger than cocaine, crack, or heroin, and if today's children had this kind of drug problem, this world would be a better place.

God bless the parents who drugged us, and for those that didn't, I'm really sorry...
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica, CA
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Sure a lot of truth on those "drugs"....when I said I was bored my mom drugged me to the bucket and scrub brush to scrub the kitchen floor. I don't think my grandkids know what a scrub brush is.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:37 PM
 
Location: southern born and southern bred
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Good for you

I am a pharmacist that recently worked at a pharmacy that filled 4-600+ Rxs a day. 90% of the bad narc Rxs came i from quacks that were over 100 miles a way. Pay doc 100 and get Rxs with not even seeing them

This is a massive problem in OH, KY, WV and surrounding areas

There are also several local docs that everyone knows have heavy hands is selling Rxs



But thanks to OARRS, things are looking better
explain to me please how and why that should be a reason for my parents and others to suffer.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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explain to me please how and why that should be a reason for my parents and others to suffer.
I agree. Very few docs are "handing them out like candy". Actually, now those who truly need (like your parents) them are screwed. Insanity.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I see a neurologist for neuropathy pain. They prescribe me Vicodin when I say I need it, which is not that often. A bottle can last me a long time because I only take it when I have breakthrough pain. They gave me a prescription for it the other day, my last one was in November, and I had to go to the lab next-door and have a urine test. They said that urine tests are now required for all pain med refills. This was a first for me, and you can bet I wont be in a hurry to get anymore pills if ever. I haven't seen the bill for my urine test but I am sure it will be ridiculous.
The urine test confirms that you are taking the prescribed medication. Someone who is diverting (selling) the medication will not have the expected level in the urine.

As a long term patient with infrequent use of the medication, you may be able to negotiate less frequent testing, especially since it will not be in your urine if you have not used it for a while before your appointment. Just be aware that this is one thing pain management specialists are doing in order to be able to show the DEA that they are not running a pill mill.
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