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Old 03-18-2018, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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At $1.00 per pill....yes the gov't "let" all kinds of people get the pills and too many became addicted.

Yes the research is backed up in the books I linked and more. Of course not "all" doctors but many were very liberal with prescriptions for the kick backs. And don't forget when Oxy first came out they told doctors it wasn't addictive(at least that is what they believed) so it was over prescribed.

And here:
[PDF]drugs for dollars: how medicaid helps fuel the opioid epidemic

And google "did people get oxy through medicaid" for more. Of course you need to sift through what is there.
How did the "gov't 'let'" anyone get anything? Should the "gov't" put quotas on the number of doses produced? Oh, that's right, they do*.

How many doctors got "kickbacks"? The average practicing physician does not make a penny off of any prescriptions he writes. None. Zilch. Yes, doctors were misled about the addictive potential of OxyContin. The true addictive potential came out, did it not? How is being misled the fault of the doctor?

The gist of that report appears to be that poor people are getting pain meds through Medicaid in order to sell them on the street. How are doctors supposed to prevent diversion? Should there be a lifetime limit on the number of doses of pain meds a person can get?

*There is going to be a reduction in the number of doses of pain meds that can be manufactured.

DEA mandates reduction in opioid manufacturing for 2018 | American Pharmacists Association
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Old 03-18-2018, 07:03 PM
 
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How did the "gov't 'let'" anyone get anything? Should the "gov't" put quotas on the number of doses produced? Oh, that's right, they do*.

How many doctors got "kickbacks"? The average practicing physician does not make a penny off of any prescriptions he writes. None. Zilch. Yes, doctors were misled about the addictive potential of OxyContin. The true addictive potential came out, did it not? How is being misled the fault of the doctor?

The gist of that report appears to be that poor people are getting pain meds through Medicaid in order to sell them on the street. How are doctors supposed to prevent diversion? Should there be a lifetime limit on the number of doses of pain meds a person can get?

*There is going to be a reduction in the number of doses of pain meds that can be manufactured.

DEA mandates reduction in opioid manufacturing for 2018 | American Pharmacists Association
We've gone thru this doctor kick back before here and there is a link with that info if one enters their doctor's name and goes from there.
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Old 03-18-2018, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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We've gone thru this doctor kick back before here and there is a link with that info if one enters their doctor's name and goes from there.
That link shows that the vast majority of doctors get no more than an occasional lunch or dinner while listening to information about a drug. They do not get paid per prescription.

"Kick backs" are illegal.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:09 PM
 
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That link shows that the vast majority of doctors get no more than an occasional lunch or dinner while listening to information about a drug. They do not get paid per prescription.

"Kick backs" are illegal.
AS usual, we'll agree to disagree. My daughter's former MD, good grief.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:25 PM
 
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AS usual, we'll agree to disagree. My daughter's former MD, good grief.
Kickbacks are illegal.

https://www.healthlawyers.org/hlreso...20Statute.aspx
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Old 03-18-2018, 09:16 PM
 
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Here's another interesting read on the subject if anyone's interested:

Andrew Sullivan on the Opioid Epidemic in America
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:03 AM
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Location: Where the sun likes to shine!!
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So is prostitution but it doesn't mean they don't get paid in different ways. I hate to burst your bubble but not all doctors are good and honest. Sadly too many are not.


https://health.usnews.com/health-new...drug-companies

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-...promote-2015-1

https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist....rug-kickbacks/

https://www.compassphs.com/blog/how-...device-makers/



And many many more.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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I was actually taking to another friend today with chronic pain. He told me that his prescription is less than $2 to fill while PT costs him $50 copay every time. Until insurance companies lower the cost of non-pharmaceutical options I think we will keep having a highly medicated society. $2 lasts a month or over $200 for PT? No brainer for most working class people.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:23 AM
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How is being misled the fault of the doctor?

The gist of that report appears to be that poor people are getting pain meds through Medicaid in order to sell them on the street. How are doctors supposed to prevent diversion? Should there be a lifetime limit on the number of doses of pain meds a person can get?

Because they were all mislead by one person at one seminar...and they went with it. No one verified. Not the govt and not the doctors. So yes they are all at fault. Read the book for the name of the man. Then research the man.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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I was actually taking to another friend today with chronic pain. He told me that his prescription is less than $2 to fill while PT costs him $50 copay every time. Until insurance companies lower the cost of non-pharmaceutical options I think we will keep having a highly medicated society. $2 lasts a month or over $200 for PT? No brainer for most working class people.
Yeah. The drugs are off patent by now so that means, in most cases, as cheap as Generic asprin.

PT's require a PT. And they don't work for free.
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