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Old 04-14-2018, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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I think there are so many other things to be worried about in this world than some guy forgetting to wash his hands. News flash -- MOST guys don't wash their hands every time they pee. About 25-30% don't do it at all, and of the other 70-75% percent, they don't do it every time. And even if they do, they don't WASH their hands -- they simply wave their hands under a little running water for 5-10 seconds, they don't use soap.

I probably wouldn't go to this guy's house for a home-cooked dinner, but I wouldn't panic at him touching the water pitcher, either. Wash it if it makes you that uncomfortable. Good lord, if this sends you into a tizzy, how do you get through the day?

 
Old 04-14-2018, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Children who grow up on farms or who are exposed during their early years to birds or animals, develop stronger immune systems, that protect them for life. We had a wildlife farm, with many types of birds, some of them even inside our house, when they were being hand-raised. I rarely have any type of infection or illness.

But I do keep my kitchen and food sanitary. Fresh fruits and vegetables can carry bacteria from other countries, that are more of a challenge for our regionally-oriented immune systems. But I stopped using triclosan-based disinfectant soap years ago, due to concerns raised about its untested and possible toxicity or carcinogenic properties.

No more disinfectant sprays either, except for the very best and least expensive one, which is distilled white vinegar, from a plant-spray plastic bottle. I use it on my hands and after washing, on all non-cooked produce. The 6% solution made by Heinz, available at the Walmart, is better, but standard 5% will do. I suffered from athlete's foot chronically all my life, before I started using white vinegar on it. Two sprays a day for three days and it was cured. I re-do the treatment, just once a year.
 
Old 04-14-2018, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Unless you urinate on your hands, or recently engaged in intercourse, there is no reason to wash afterwards. Besides, even the most thorough handwash is negated as soon as you touch the lavatory door...
 
Old 04-14-2018, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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This part of the OP's original statement bothers me: "When he came over, he went to my bathroom and used the toilet. He did this few times. I have no issue with this but I'm pretty certain he did not wash his hands." It sounds more like a suspicion than actual knowledge that this person did not wash their hands. It sound paranoid.

They might be right, but if you obsess over ever suspicion; that is not healthy. It is not healthy to drive yourself nuts about things you really do not know about. You can prepare for the worse - that is taking positive action. But the worry is counter productive. I do not believe I heard if the OP has a dishwasher? Most dishwashers have heating coils that heat the dishes and utensils hot enough to sterilize them.

As a 71 year old male I have observed many other males that have not washed their hands after using the facilities. It is not always dirty looking people that do that. In country clubs many of the hotshots don't worry about washing their hands. These are the people that give you a big smile and stick out their hand when you're introduced. It is almost impossible to try to avoid each one. It pays to worry about your own hands first; wash or use disinfectant frequently and do not touch your face or rub your eyes before sanitizing.
 
Old 04-14-2018, 06:02 PM
 
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Unless you urinate on your hands, or recently engaged in intercourse, there is no reason to wash afterwards. Besides, even the most thorough handwash is negated as soon as you touch the lavatory door...
Exactly. Then every single person who was there who didn't wash their hands - or did so very poorly - has now shaken hands with you.

Myself, I don't pee or poop on my hands. I just don't, despite what others might say about their own habits.
 
Old 04-14-2018, 06:32 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Unless you urinate on your hands, or recently engaged in intercourse, there is no reason to wash afterwards. Besides, even the most thorough handwash is negated as soon as you touch the lavatory door...
Actually, urine is sterile and semen nearly so as it comes out of the body. Do you not use toilet paper when you have a bowel movement? Do you not think you get some BM on your hands no matter how careful you are? You should read this: https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/why-handwashing.html And this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC106730/

The guy was in the OP's home, not a public restroom. He may not even have shut the door.

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Exactly. Then every single person who was there who didn't wash their hands - or did so very poorly - has now shaken hands with you.

Myself, I don't pee or poop on my hands. I just don't, despite what others might say about their own habits.
In addition to snark (in brown for poop) about other people, you just. don't get. it. Try reading this: https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsl...ash-your-hands
And this: https://www.bustle.com/articles/1477...sh-your-hands; this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18254044; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18556606; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18254044; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21318017

More on handwashing: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-women-s-lives
For "handwashing denialists": Hand washing denialists - Bad Astronomy : Bad Astronomy

You guys are gross!
 
Old 04-14-2018, 07:19 PM
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Location: Out there somewhere...
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Germaphobies I know carry those thin plastic throwaway hand gloves with them, then if worried they whip one out of their pocket or purse and use it. Then throw it away. Worry solved.
 
Old 04-14-2018, 07:36 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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If it really bothers you that much. Get a new pitcher. Running it through the dishwasher should kill any germs.
 
Old 04-14-2018, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Default Here's a Booster-Shot for Germ Paranoics

Read the story at the link below and think twice before using one of these restroom blow-dryers again.

And by the way, some of us guys, when carrying-out a No. 1 operation, can do it hands-free.

https://www.morningticker.com/2018/0...ns-scientists/
 
Old 04-14-2018, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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That really takes the cake for excuses for not washing your hands. I already explained the soap, which ClaraC doesn't use, would take care of anything you picked up touching the faucet. If you have that much concern about what's on the faucet, you can use a paper towel/piece of TP if no paper towels, or even your elbow to shut off the faucet.
The soap don't work after it is used. I have to touch the faucet to turn the faucet off unless it is a sensor. You think that germs on the handles just go away from touching it after washing? I try not to do much of that due to having a food handler's card. I try to even open doors with paper towel but let's face it, many places aren't set to do that without holding paper towels unnecessarily longwe.
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