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Old 04-28-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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Thanks to all the newer responders here. Honestly, I am still mulling this over. I think I have begun to realize that he is perhaps borderline in becoming a little too friendly with his clients (not just me). And I am in a small city, where people travel in the same circles, so sometimes you just have mutual friends.

At this point I do NOT wish to cause him or his wife any trouble, but I think my eyes are opened to the situation, and I definitely feel I just can't trust him anymore. It is possible I will be able to see someone else in a related field who is about to open his own office soon. I seem to be doing much better physically these days, and the alternate therapy may be all I need. Maybe it was just time to move on, I am going to see how I do. Thanks again, all.
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Old 04-28-2018, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Again, folks, the betrayal had nothing to do with HIPAA - it was a personal confidence about a project they were both working on outside the context of therapy, and that is NOT covered by HIPAA. see the description of PHI in my post.

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...he is someone I had come to trust, and have always confided things to him and he has done the same. He always assured me that nothing said would ever leave the therapy room.

Today I found out he pretty much "threw me under the bus" by repeating verbatim to a mutual friend some things that I had said in confidence that I was not happy about (concerning a project which we were involved in)...
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Old 04-28-2018, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I wouldn't take this to a lawyer or HIPPA but I would certainly talk to him about this. If he's doing this to you, how many others is he doing this with? He has to learn that confidential information MEANS confidential!

If I were you, I'd go for my next appointment and when he comes in to treat you, ask him if he has a couple of minutes at the end of the session to talk.

After your treatment, tell him that you found out something that's very disappointing. That you found out he's been telling a person (or persons) what you have said to him that was meant to be between you and him, and HIM only. Let him figure out what to say to you about it.

If he's helping your physical pain so much, depending on what he says about the breach of trust should give you an answer whether you want to keep seeing him or not.
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Old 04-28-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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At this point I do NOT wish to cause him or his wife any trouble, but I think my eyes are opened to the situation, and I definitely feel I just can't trust him anymore. It is possible I will be able to see someone else in a related field who is about to open his own office soon. I seem to be doing much better physically these days, and the alternate therapy may be all I need. Maybe it was just time to move on, I am going to see how I do. Thanks again, all.
If he did it to you, he has done it (or will do it) to others

I wouldn't worry about his wife and the scum puppy
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Old 04-29-2018, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Kauai, HI
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But isn't it a HIPAA violation If he simply even acknowledged that OP is a client of his? My HIPAA training always was firm that we can't say that someone is a patient or not, so regardless of the info divulged was confident medical info or not it would be a violation of privacy. Either way, the OP doesn't want to follow up and that's fine but at some point something shoukd be said to the therapist so he can understand what he did wrong.
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Old 04-29-2018, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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But isn't it a HIPAA violation If he simply even acknowledged that OP is a client of his? My HIPAA training always was firm that we can't say that someone is a patient or not, so regardless of the info divulged was confident medical info or not it would be a violation of privacy.
Yes - but the relationship between the client and the person the information was disclosed to was "mutual friend" so we don't know from the situation as described whether the therapist disclosed the professional relationship (HIPAA violation) or whether the conversation was revealing a confidence in the context of the project alone without reference to the OP's PHI (not a HIPAA violation). Those who are confused about all this stuff should note that HIPAA doesn't forbid a person revealing his/her own PHI to someone else - HIPAA's focus is on healthcare providers and third parties that support them keeping a client's PHI private.

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Either way, the OP doesn't want to follow up and that's fine but at some point something shoukd be said to the therapist so he can understand what he did wrong.
I agree - As I said, I would talk to the therapist if it were me, but that's an issue of pointing out the therapist's behavior as a professional, not a HIPAA violation.
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Old 04-29-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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Live and learn.

You have only yourself to blame. Why would you share confidences with your physical therapist. It makes no sense at all.

Imagine how your friend/co-worker he disclosed this to felt. And, I do believe this is a HIPAA violation. However, it is complicated by the fact that you also have mutual friends....seems you should have kept your thoughts to yourself knowing that.

So, if what he said has affected your trust in his therapy, than switch.

Otherwise, stop the informative talks, and keep it surface....like it should be.

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Old 04-29-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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I wouldn't take this to a lawyer or HIPPA but I would certainly talk to him about this. If he's doing this to you, how many others is he doing this with? He has to learn that confidential information MEANS confidential!

If I were you, I'd go for my next appointment and when he comes in to treat you, ask him if he has a couple of minutes at the end of the session to talk.

After your treatment, tell him that you found out something that's very disappointing. That you found out he's been telling a person (or persons) what you have said to him that was meant to be between you and him, and HIM only. Let him figure out what to say to you about it.

If he's helping your physical pain so much, depending on what he says about the breach of trust should give you an answer whether you want to keep seeing him or not.
Yes, that was what I was thinking - he may have done this with others. At any rate I think I will do as you suggested, keep my next appointment and see what he has to say about it. Depending on that conversation, I will decide whether to terminate my sessions with him. I think the lines became blurred because of our mutual friend-in-common.
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Old 04-29-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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Live and learn.

You have only yourself to blame. Why would you share confidences with your physical therapist. It makes no sense at all.

Imagine how your friend/co-worker he disclosed this to felt. And, I do believe this is a HIPAA violation. However, it is complicated by the fact that you also have mutual friends....seems you should have kept your thoughts to yourself knowing that.

So, if what he said has affected your trust in his therapy, than switch.

Otherwise, stop the informative talks, and keep it surface....like it should be.
Thank you for your reply; however at this point I really don't need admonishment. I feel bad enough all around about what happened, and I did already say it was an eye-opener and I have learned my lesson. As far as "not making sense", well right from the start this person was very open and friendly and shared info about himself and his life and I guess that led me to feel more open and trusting. Never again, though.
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Old 04-29-2018, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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I would no longer patronize someone who broke a confidence. There are some things that are not negotiable. That said, I might ask him about it and see what he says. That'll tell you all you need to know.
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