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Old 05-16-2018, 10:54 AM
 
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Just wondered about this. According to things I have read, the problem with refined sugar is that it goes into the blood very quickly, because it has no fiber. Sugar in its natural context, in fruit, is combined with fiber so it does not cause the damage that refined sugar can cause.

So, obviously, you should avoid high sugar soft drinks and energy drinks. They are the worst. But also everything made out of refined sugar and refined flour.

However, one book I read years ago said sugary food is ok, as long as you have it around the same time as healthy natural food.

So, by that theory, you can have desert every day without getting metabolic syndrome, diabetes, etc.

Parents used to tell their kids you can't have desert unless you eat dinner first. So that would make sense, if this theory is true.

Also, from things I read more recently, physical activity will use up a lot of the sugar that comes in, and help prevent the cells from being overwhelmed (becoming insulin resistant, etc.).
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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If you don't have diabetes, eating sugar shouldn't hurt you. It doesn't "cause" diabetes...,but if you have diabetes or the proclivity to get it, it would be wise to abstain from not only cane sugar, but carbs in general.....bread, potatoes, etc...cause sugar levels to rise.
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Old 05-16-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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If you don't have diabetes, eating sugar shouldn't hurt you. It doesn't "cause" diabetes...,but if you have diabetes or the proclivity to get it, it would be wise to abstain from not only cane sugar, but carbs in general.....bread, potatoes, etc...cause sugar levels to rise.
Eating too much refined sugar does cause type 2 diabetes, especially if combined with an inactive lifestyle.

Sugar itself is not the problem, it's sugar removed from its natural context, which would include fiber and nutrients.

Refined sugar is absolutely detrimental to health. But we know it's ok in natural food.

So my question is whether refined sugar, if eaten around the same time as natural healthy food, might be ok, in moderation.

I realize there is no definite answer to this, since scientific research has not been done on the question (or most other questions, for that matter). I just wondered if anyone else thought about it, or heard anything about it.

I eat "bad" stuff sometimes, but usually not in isolation. So just wondered if that's a good idea. Don't start the day with a donut and nothing else, for example. That would start the day off as an energy roller coaster.
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Old 05-16-2018, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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All I can say is from my own experience. When I eat something that is high in sugar, I can feel a spacey sensation almost immediately, similar to if I drink alcohol. I have never felt that when eating maple syrup or honey.

And I had been having really bad pain and stiffness in one of my knees, to the point where I couldn't walk for more than a half block. When I eliminated sugar and wheat from my diet, my knee felt noticeably better after just two days. Two weeks later, no knee pain whatsoever and I just walked a mile with no problem.

So just subjectively I feel that sugar and wheat are not good for me.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:16 PM
 
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All I can say is from my own experience. When I eat something that is high in sugar, I can feel a spacey sensation almost immediately, similar to if I drink alcohol. I have never felt that when eating maple syrup or honey.

And I had been having really bad pain and stiffness in one of my knees, to the point where I couldn't walk for more than a half block. When I eliminated sugar and wheat from my diet, my knee felt noticeably better after just two days. Two weeks later, no knee pain whatsoever and I just walked a mile with no problem.

So just subjectively I feel that sugar and wheat are not good for me.
Trust your experience. That is probably true for many others also.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Bloomington, IL
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....gimme moooooooooooore sugar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Diabetes Myths: American Diabetes Association®
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Old 05-17-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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All I can say is from my own experience. When I eat something that is high in sugar, I can feel a spacey sensation almost immediately, similar to if I drink alcohol. I have never felt that when eating maple syrup or honey.

And I had been having really bad pain and stiffness in one of my knees, to the point where I couldn't walk for more than a half block. When I eliminated sugar and wheat from my diet, my knee felt noticeably better after just two days. Two weeks later, no knee pain whatsoever and I just walked a mile with no problem.

So just subjectively I feel that sugar and wheat are not good for me.
My experience is similar. If I eat sugar I get an immediate racing sensation, very scary.

Was with my daughter yesterday at her doctor's appointment, she may have celiac disease. Doctor says it is so underdiagnosed. Many people simply self-correct their food choices to avoid the unpleasant effects of wheat. That's what I've been doing.
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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Yes, a lot of good info in that article ^^. As far as including sugar, my feeling is a VERY SMALL amount is OK AFTER a healthy meal (protein, veggies, etc) The protein and fat in the meal will slow the spike of the sugar, especially if it is just a small amount.

The problem with people consuming large amounts of processed sugar (especially in sodas!!!! ) is that it will cause a flood of insulin to be released; and after a time the body gets insulin resistant, which can result in high blood sugar. For myself, I stick to a small handful of chocolate covered almonds, sometimes mixed with a few dried fruits after dinner. Very satisfying for the sweet tooth, and not too harmful.

Regular exercise, even just walking for a short time, goes a long way to reduce blood sugar.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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Yeah, I think it is pretty much accepted that sugar isn't good for you.

I have a low tolerance for sweet things, even a raw carrot tastes to sugary to me, and I've always been that way. I bought a pizza crust and it came with a sauce, which was disgustingly too sweet.

Of course, that hasn't stopped me from becoming pre-diabetic.
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