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View Poll Results: After reading the OP in full, what is your take on the current state of pain medication prescription
Pain relief medications are "too severely restricted" for legitimate patients? 120 71.86%
Pain relief medications restrictions are “where they should be” for legitimate pain patients? 20 11.98%
Pain relief medications restrictions are “not restricted enough” for legitimate pain patients? 27 16.17%
Voters: 167. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-21-2018, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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I know oxycodone is stronger then hydrocodone therefore it would be harder to obtain.

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Old 06-21-2018, 08:55 PM
 
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I'm typing this while having one of my now-chronic sinus headaches. I don't know how I feel about this topic. On one hand, if I have to take a pee test while using marijuana to relieve my headaches (the most effective treatment I've found so far) I would lose my job. On the other hand, there are all kinds of painkillers that are opiate based that could help that are entirely legal and I just am terrified of those and the potential for addiction. I have a VERY addiction prone personality.

Now, it's highly unlikely that I would be asked to take a urine test, but it COULD happen and they'd be in their legal rights to fire me. I am single and make good money - I can't risk losing my job. So I just tough it out and hope it doesn't affect my work too much. That said, these past couple months the headaches have been happening every couple days - usually mild, but often quite severe. The severe ones just mean I lay around the house moaning with the lights off and the mild ones are mostly innocuous but they affect my work productivity and how much I get done around the house. I've dropped a lot of balls this spring/summer and it's scaring me. I wonder how much better it would be if I had a decent way to control the pain.
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Garbage, NC
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All one has to do is look at other drugs that are 100% banned in this country (such as Meth or Cocaine) to see if there is still an issue with them. Is there still an issue with 100% banned drugs?
The difference is that meth and cocaine is not prescribed by doctors. Opioids ARE prescribed by doctors, often in very heavy doses.

I'm not saying that you SHOULD, but you COULD blame a meth or cocaine addict for picking up the habit in the first place. It's hard to blame an opioid addict for picking up the drug when they picked it up from their local pharmacy with a prescription from their doctor.
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Old 06-22-2018, 07:10 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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"The National Academy of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine released a comprehensive report on Thursday acknowledging that “conclusive or substantial evidence” exists for the efficacy of whole-plant cannabis and its derivatives in patients suffering from chronic pain, multiple sclerosis, and other disorders."

Authors reviewed over 10,000 scientific abstracts when compiling their findings. The report marks the agency’s first comprehensive review since 1999 specific to the science surrounding marijuana and health."

“In adults with chronic pain, patients who were treated with cannabis or cannabinoids (constituents found organically in the marijuana plant) are more likely to experience a clinically significant reduction of pain symptoms,” experts concluded. They also affirmed that marijuana-derived medicines are effective anti-emetics and that they improve symptoms of spasticity."

Scientific review of marijuana supports regulation, not criminalization | TheHill


The Health Effects of Cannabis and Cannabinoids: The Current State of Evidence and Recommendations for Research : Health and Medicine Division

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Despite increased cannabis use and a changing state-level pol- icy landscape, conclusive evidence regarding the short- and long-term health effects—both harms and benefits—of cannabis use remains elusive.
A lack of definitive evidence has resulted in insufcient information on the health implications of cannabis use, causing a significant public health concern for vulnerable populations such as adolescents, pregnant women, and others. Unlike with substances such as alcohol or tobacco, no accepted standards exist to help guide individuals as they make choices regarding if, when, where, and how to use cannabis safely and, in regard to therapeutic uses, effectively.
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:40 PM
 
Location: DFW
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A few bad apples? Really? This annoys me that people just don't understand addiction. I think its too darn easy still to get what you want and people are afraid to ask because of the addicts or fear of looking bad.
Still those people who abuse pills aren't at fault! They have a problem too! Maybe legitimate pain suffers should find another solution.
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Old 06-22-2018, 10:06 PM
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A few bad apples? Really? This annoys me that people just don't understand addiction. I think its too darn easy still to get what you want and people are afraid to ask because of the addicts or fear of looking bad.
Still those people who abuse pills aren't at fault! They have a problem too! Maybe legitimate pain suffers should find another solution.

Seriously? You don't think that chronic pain patients haven't already tried everything available? TENS? Acupuncture? NSAIDS? US? Cold laser? Physical therapy? Steroid injections? Chiropractors? Epidurals? Spinal cord stimulators? Surgery? Mindfulness? Exercise therapy? Hypnosis? Heat? Osteopathic manipulation? Whirlpools? PMR? Massage? E-stim? Biofeedback? And a boatload of other stuff?



It annoys me that people just don't understand chronic pain. Throwing legitimate pain patients under the bus because other people abuse medications is just pathetic.
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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A few bad apples? Really? This annoys me that people just don't understand addiction. I think its too darn easy still to get what you want and people are afraid to ask because of the addicts or fear of looking bad.
Still those people who abuse pills aren't at fault! They have a problem too! Maybe legitimate pain suffers should find another solution.
Excuse me? You want legitimate pain sufferers to suffer more because of the mishandling of opiates? I guess you have never been in excruciating pain.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:20 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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A few bad apples? Really? This annoys me that people just don't understand addiction. I think its too darn easy still to get what you want and people are afraid to ask because of the addicts or fear of looking bad.
Still those people who abuse pills aren't at fault! They have a problem too! Maybe legitimate pain suffers should find another solution.
Those would be what exactly? <bold>
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Old 06-23-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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Excuse me? You want legitimate pain sufferers to suffer more because of the mishandling of opiates? I guess you have never been in excruciating pain.
+1.

Unbelievable.
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Old 06-23-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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The difference is that meth and cocaine is not prescribed by doctors. Opioids ARE prescribed by doctors, often in very heavy doses.

I'm not saying that you SHOULD, but you COULD blame a meth or cocaine addict for picking up the habit in the first place. It's hard to blame an opioid addict for picking up the drug when they picked it up from their local pharmacy with a prescription from their doctor.
just an FYI-cocaine is a legal, schedule II drug. i think you're saying no one prescribes it for use out of clinic/hospitals but it certainly is a legal pharmaceutical.
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