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View Poll Results: After reading the OP in full, what is your take on the current state of pain medication prescription
Pain relief medications are "too severely restricted" for legitimate patients? 120 71.86%
Pain relief medications restrictions are “where they should be” for legitimate pain patients? 20 11.98%
Pain relief medications restrictions are “not restricted enough” for legitimate pain patients? 27 16.17%
Voters: 167. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-16-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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Before anyone laments about this topic, answer one simple question: have you seen an actual pain care specialist? Not just your family doctor, but an actual pain care specialist?
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Old 06-16-2018, 10:21 PM
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Before anyone laments about this topic, answer one simple question: have you seen an actual pain care specialist? Not just your family doctor, but an actual pain care specialist?

I've seen multiple pain management physicians for multiple years and have been through every therapy available, up to and including a major operation, none of which controlled my chronic pain, and which required multiple additional hospitalizations for complications of pain management. I was disabled by all these problems. I am not a wimp either. Finally said physicians admitted they had nothing left to offer me except a prescription for opioid analgesics, which my internist could write just as well. I hate taking these opiates...they give me horrible nausea, a headache, dizziness, insomnia, constipation, and make me stupid. I can't leave the house after taking them. I try to limit them to when I'm in so much pain that I can't move or otherwise function, maybe a few times a month. However, every month it seems like I have to go through more and more red tape, third degrees, and suspicion of abuse to get a prescription filled.


I'm not alone. There are many, many patients out there with similar stories, and we've been lost in the whole furor over opiate abuse.
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:36 AM
 
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I've seen multiple pain management physicians for multiple years and have been through every therapy available, up to and including a major operation, none of which controlled my chronic pain, and which required multiple additional hospitalizations for complications of pain management. I was disabled by all these problems. I am not a wimp either. Finally said physicians admitted they had nothing left to offer me except a prescription for opioid analgesics, which my internist could write just as well. I hate taking these opiates...they give me horrible nausea, a headache, dizziness, insomnia, constipation, and make me stupid. I can't leave the house after taking them. I try to limit them to when I'm in so much pain that I can't move or otherwise function, maybe a few times a month. However, every month it seems like I have to go through more and more red tape, third degrees, and suspicion of abuse to get a prescription filled.


I'm not alone. There are many, many patients out there with similar stories, and we've been lost in the whole furor over opiate abuse.
Bottom line. Do you get the medication or not? It sounds like you do. Life is messy. Deal with the red tape.
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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I think we have swung too far in the other direction personally. But I am very liberal so I will preface this with that. I fully believe the patient should be educated about all of the options, risks and benefits and then given options to choose from including alternative medicine, opiates and non-opiates. The focus should be on what gives the individual the best quality of life in the way they want to live. One person may want opiates, another may be like jamin and prefer alternatives but that should be each person’s right.
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Old 06-17-2018, 08:41 AM
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Bottom line. Do you get the medication or not? It sounds like you do. Life is messy. Deal with the red tape.

Sorry you didn't get the answer you wanted to your question. Would you like to deal with the red tape, etc for your prescriptions?
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Old 06-17-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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Before anyone laments about this topic, answer one simple question: have you seen an actual pain care specialist? Not just your family doctor, but an actual pain care specialist?
Yes, I have been seeing a pain specialist.
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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There are so many reasons for pain and my issues are arthritic and I've learned to live and manage it as best I can and not go to opioids for arthritis. And I've had pain for decades and my threshold for pain is high.

I don't know what others here deal with pain wise...but I would believe that say cancer patients are getting all the help they need from their doctors with strong pain meds.

One member mentioned RSD and I know about that and I've read many comments from members of another group that deal with RSD and they use a lot of alternatives to help them. A friend has dealt with RSD for many years and the last time I mentioned it, she said it was under control..meaning she wasn't having a lot of issues at that time.

And for post surgery issues I wouldn't think doctors are keeping these pain meds from patients in their recoveries.

The last couple days I've been hearing that 2/3 of opioid users are women 40 to 59. So says the CDC they are saying.
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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This will be another disaster, as per the War on Poverty, the War on Drugs, the War on Terror. All were circular firing squads. There are some things the feds need to do and are actually authorized to do. Other areas which mostly bulk up the bureaucracy or the police powers/state or create dependency, are unmitigated disasters.

Lessons not learned. Sessions is an imbecile and has no business doing anything more complex than sitting in a rocking chair on his front porch in Sweet Home, Alabammy.
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Old 06-17-2018, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Wine Country
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There are so many reasons for pain and my issues are arthritic and I've learned to live and manage it as best I can and not go to opioids for arthritis. And I've had pain for decades and my threshold for pain is high.

I don't know what others here deal with pain wise...but I would believe that say cancer patients are getting all the help they need from their doctors with strong pain meds.

One member mentioned RSD and I know about that and I've read many comments from members of another group that deal with RSD and they use a lot of alternatives to help them. A friend has dealt with RSD for many years and the last time I mentioned it, she said it was under control..meaning she wasn't having a lot of issues at that time.

And for post surgery issues I wouldn't think doctors are keeping these pain meds from patients in their recoveries.

The last couple days I've been hearing that 2/3 of opioid users are women 40 to 59. So says the CDC they are saying.
What is your point?
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Old 06-17-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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My point is I guess, I wonder what issues so many have here that need opioids...I have always been under the impression that these hard pain meds are for the really tough issues. Didn't realize so many here are in such pain.
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