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View Poll Results: After reading the OP in full, what is your take on the current state of pain medication prescription
Pain relief medications are "too severely restricted" for legitimate patients? 114 70.81%
Pain relief medications restrictions are “where they should be” for legitimate pain patients? 20 12.42%
Pain relief medications restrictions are “not restricted enough” for legitimate pain patients? 27 16.77%
Voters: 161. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-17-2018, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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My point is I guess, I wonder what issues so many have here that need opioids...I have always been under the impression that these hard pain meds are for the really tough issues. Didn't realize so many here are in such pain.
?? You don't have to be in excruciating pain to argue a point.
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Old 06-18-2018, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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We are too worried about the illegal drugs in the "War on Opiates" than we are about the drug companies pushing doctors to prescribe opiates. OP, the President's "War on Opiates" was talked about during his State of the Union 2018 speech. The problem I had with it and with the "Opiate Epidemic", was that we are not worried about the cause for people to crave the street drugs. We are worried about the wrong pushers. We worry too much about the dealers but not enough about the mark doctors or the doctors getting sweetheart deals to push opiates like Oxy. The drug manufacturers also don't want to allow medical marijuana use because they'll lose part of the pain management market they own with opiates in a prohibition of marijuana market. Many people are given long supplies of opiates and then one day they are out and have to go to street alternatives or perhaps OD on the prescription. We aren't doing enough to stop that even with education. It is time we go after the manufacturers and doctors rather than the drug dealers who are the last resort for the addicts.
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:47 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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My point is I guess, I wonder what issues so many have here that need opioids...
It's far more likely that the 40-59yo women in question have the best access to
HI policies and doctors willing to give them what they present themselves as needing.


The issues aren't new...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhGD-zGhSHc
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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I watched 60 Mintutes last night and it was about opioids. This epidemic was created by the drug manufacturers, distributers and the DEA which turned a blind eye - they were told to by government officials. Drug mills proliferated all over and especially in the South.
It got me thinking about when this opioid crisis started. Opioids have been around for a very long time and of course they are addictive, but up until about 20 years ago there was no addiction epidemic.
Now we are punishing people who need them because of this phony war on them by the government.
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:26 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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I watched 60 Mintutes last night and it was about (prescription) opioids .
Opioids (in various forms) have been around for a very long time and of course they are addictive,
but up until about 20 years ago there was (little prescription form) addiction epidemic.
The addiction 'epidemic' we had before mostly involved NEEDLES.
Sharing needles and all the blood borne problems that stem from their use.
Pills are much neater.
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Old 06-18-2018, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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The addiction 'epidemic' we had before mostly involved NEEDLES.
Sharing needles and all the blood borne problems that stem from their use.
Pills are much neater.
That may be so, but flooding the marketplace with addictive drugs hoping people become addicted in order to make more money is the real reason why we have an opioid epidemic.
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Old 06-18-2018, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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War on pain relief?


I am sure there are those who would like that........if they could tie up pain relief to the pharmacidical companies and outlaw all other methods.


To think that one might need a script to get https://www.organicfacts.net/health-...fits-uses.html Chamomile tea.


I use that as an example but it is not my method.



Thankfully, we are not there yet......................yet.

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Old 06-18-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: planet earth
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Have you all exhausted natural remedies?

Organic, whole foods.
Clean, filtered water.
Exercise.
Massage.
Essential Oils.
Healthy, beautiful environment.
Lots of holistic treatments.

Have you examined the emotional and metaphysical cause of your illness?

You can Google whatever your illness is and metaphysical reason and you might be interested in the results.

Pain medication is a bandaid.

What is the root cause of the disease and how is that being addressed? (Hint: Allopathic medicine is not going to give you the answer).
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Old 06-18-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Have you all exhausted natural remedies?

Organic, whole foods.
Clean, filtered water.
Exercise.
Massage.
Essential Oils.
Healthy, beautiful environment.
Lots of holistic treatments.

Have you examined the emotional and metaphysical cause of your illness?

You can Google whatever your illness is and metaphysical reason and you might be interested in the results.

Pain medication is a bandaid.

What is the root cause of the disease and how is that being addressed? (Hint: Allopathic medicine is not going to give you the answer).
I couldn't agree more, just thinking about the damage to the brain keeps me from them along with other reasons I've listed.

https://drugabuse.com/featured/the-e...s-on-the-body/
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Old 06-18-2018, 01:41 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Before anyone laments about this topic, answer one simple question: have you seen an actual pain care specialist? Not just your family doctor, but an actual pain care specialist?
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Bottom line. Do you get the medication or not? It sounds like you do. Life is messy. Deal with the red tape.
Sadly yes, several times. Every single one wanted to put me on heavier narcotics than I was taking when I walked in the office AND up the dosage. I was FINE with the dosage and drug I was taking at the time, though god forbid, it was the EVIL death drug Vicodin.

These narcotics they wanted to put me on cost more, some three to five times more than what I was currently paying/taking.
Needless to say I told them not just no but HELL NO and walked out.
Sorry, those "Pain Management" clinics are nothing but pill mills designed to get you really hooked and permanently glued to their offices since they have you sign a contract that you cannot go to or talk to anyone else or they'll cut you off. Talk about a huge profit center!

Try getting a prescription written or filled after a doctor has Red Labeled your file. Just short of impossible.

Try reading their contract some time then come back and spout off about dealing with anything...
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