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Old 07-05-2018, 11:00 AM
 
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Just read in the local paper the op threw up a lung.
It's truly amazing how mean spirited some posts can get.

Glad OP checked in and I was not concerned about him.
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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That's a LONG time ago. January 1993, I was just a month old. If that's the last major instance, then it truly is a rare thing.
That was the last major incident because internal temperature requirements for hamburgers were changed after that. Some people learn from mistakes.
Medium-Rare Burgers: A Risky Culinary Comeback | Food Safety News
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Old 07-05-2018, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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That was the last major incident because internal temperature requirements for hamburgers were changed after that. Some people learn from mistakes.
Medium-Rare Burgers: A Risky Culinary Comeback | Food Safety News
I'm fine that fast food burgers are cooked med. well done or even higher because my expectations are very low for those places and I think their training/standards are lower.

But if I'm going somewhere to pay $10 or more for a burger then put the warning on the menu but I think you should at least be able to get a medium rare burger. If you are willing to take the risk then why should you only be able to eat one at home that you make for yourself?
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Old 07-05-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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I would have thought it means you won't get breast cancer.
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Old 07-05-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I'm fine that fast food burgers are cooked med. well done or even higher because my expectations are very low for those places and I think their training/standards are lower.

But if I'm going somewhere to pay $10 or more for a burger then put the warning on the menu but I think you should at least be able to get a medium rare burger. If you are willing to take the risk then why should you only be able to eat one at home that you make for yourself?
Two reasons:

1) From my link: "The problem is that many consumers might not be given the information necessary to make that informed choice, he noted. . . Another problem is that terms such as “medium-rare” and “well-done” have no temperature correlation. . . “As a consumer, the only thing I can do to guarantee a fully cooked burger is to order it cooked to 155 degrees for 15 seconds,” Chapman said. . . “I like the fact that people get to make their own decision,” he added, “but I’m not convinced that there are a lot of really good, informed choices happening.”"
You need to know how much of a risk you're taking.

2) You can probably sue anyway, even if you were informed of the risk. The restaurant owner is supposed to be the professional.
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:00 PM
 
Location: northern New England
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Glad you're OK so far, OP!! Now, I just got some pond water up my nose and down my throat while swimming. Very silty pond too. Probably fish pee and poop in it. Hope I will be OK.
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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Most likely you'll be fine. People eat steak tartare, which is diced up raw beef, all the time, without getting sick. Eating raw beef is not an automatic night of porcelain intimacy. The only difference between steak tartare and ground hamburger is that steak tartare is cut up right in front of you, while ground beef is ground in a butchers shop or at a meat processing plant. E coli outbreaks from undercooked hamburgers (there was a serious one involving Jack in the Box in the early 90s with a few deaths) occur when the processing plant makes a mistake when breaking down the beef carcass and/or contaminates equipment and food contact surfaces. There is also a tapeworm risk. But both these risks are very low, so assume that you wont be sick unless you get sick.
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Old 07-05-2018, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Most likely you'll be fine. People eat steak tartare, which is diced up raw beef, all the time, without getting sick. Eating raw beef is not an automatic night of porcelain intimacy. The only difference between steak tartare and ground hamburger is that steak tartare is cut up right in front of you, while ground beef is ground in a butchers shop or at a meat processing plant. E coli outbreaks from undercooked hamburgers (there was a serious one involving Jack in the Box in the early 90s with a few deaths) occur when the processing plant makes a mistake when breaking down the beef carcass and/or contaminates equipment and food contact surfaces. There is also a tapeworm risk. But both these risks are very low, so assume that you wont be sick unless you get sick.
From my link: The difference between steak and a burger is this: "Unlike a rare steak, a rare burger is risky because the germs from the outside of the meat have been ground inside."
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Old 07-05-2018, 05:09 PM
 
Location: North West Arkansas (zone 6b)
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doesn't anyone think it's kinda gross to eat feces whether or not it's reached 160 degrees?
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Old 07-05-2018, 06:02 PM
 
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Pink is cooked. Red is not.
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