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Old 07-28-2018, 10:46 AM
 
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All of my tests were great also. Cholesterol doesn’t have anything to do with alcohol. I’m thinking it would just be your liver, and that would be hurt from more extreme drinking over a long time. It’s all the other problems I described that are outside destroying your organs that won’t show up on tests. Looking back at how hard it was to cut back and how much better I felt when not drinking, I had a problem and a slight addiction. The negatives were more feeling like crap and lower quality of life rather than hurting my long term health.
No, not cholesterol but tryglycerides which are part of the lipid profile. Alcohol increases them.
Soda with sugar and all simple (non-complex) carbs increase them as well.
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Old 07-28-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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I started smoking weed occasionally after I gave up the booze. Only 1 hit though for a small high though. I plan to quit totally on that soon also.
I thought you said you took pills.
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Old 07-28-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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No, not cholesterol but tryglycerides which are part of the lipid profile. Alcohol increases them.


This is true, OP....
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Old 07-28-2018, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Concord NC
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"I used to be a heroin addict, now I'm a methadone addict." - kid in Annie Hall
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Old 07-28-2018, 01:06 PM
 
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I figure I'm at worst a "maintenance alcoholic". Been this way for many years, never missed a day's work, never even get bad hangovers, rarely any hangover at all. Truth is many many people drink way more than I do and are doing fine.

Would it be "healthier" to drink less? Probably. Maybe. Even doctors disagree on how much alcohol is too much. Most have told me I am fine and there appears to be no problem.

Seriously and honestly, I doubt I'm at risk of having an alcohol problem this late in the game. If I was going to have a problem with it, I'd have had it years ago.
Have you taken nights off from drinking? If so, how did you feel the next day?
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Old 07-28-2018, 01:47 PM
 
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I figure I'm at worst a "maintenance alcoholic". Been this way for many years, never missed a day's work, never even get bad hangovers, rarely any hangover at all. Truth is many many people drink way more than I do and are doing fine.

Would it be "healthier" to drink less? Probably. Maybe. Even doctors disagree on how much alcohol is too much. Most have told me I am fine and there appears to be no problem.

Seriously and honestly, I doubt I'm at risk of having an alcohol problem this late in the game. If I was going to have a problem with it, I'd have had it years ago.
Your life, your business. However, have you ever tried to stop cold turkey?

My brother, who passed away 5 years ago, was a "maintenance alcoholic". He, too, never missed a day's work. Once, my SIL asked him if was capable of stopping drinking. He said "yes". For a long time, it appeared that he did stop drinking. He switched to non-alcoholic beer. Then his MIL saw him buying beer and of course, ratted him out to my SIL. SIL confronted my brother and told him, if he wants to drink, then drink. Later on, she was in their basement and discovered a stash of empty beer bottles where he was hiding them when he said he had stopped drinking.

It wasn't just alcohol that he was using to self-medicate. He also used tobacco and pot. Lung cancer is what killed him. He was a depressive, one of the so-called "walking wounded". My SIL had expressed concerns about his depression and had urged him to get help, which he never did. As that old saying goes "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"...
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Old 07-28-2018, 02:53 PM
 
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Have you taken nights off from drinking? If so, how did you feel the next day?
Not sure about him, but when I take nights off from drinking I feel the same the next day as I do when I drink the night before.
I also drink moderately - 2-4 glasses of beer or wine or etc per evening. This does not represent alcoholism in my opinion, I don't care what AA might say.
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Old 07-28-2018, 02:57 PM
 
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Your life, your business. However, have you ever tried to stop cold turkey?

My brother, who passed away 5 years ago, was a "maintenance alcoholic". He, too, never missed a day's work. Once, my SIL asked him if was capable of stopping drinking. He said "yes". For a long time, it appeared that he did stop drinking. He switched to non-alcoholic beer. Then his MIL saw him buying beer and of course, ratted him out to my SIL. SIL confronted my brother and told him, if he wants to drink, then drink. Later on, she was in their basement and discovered a stash of empty beer bottles where he was hiding them when he said he had stopped drinking.


It wasn't just alcohol that he was using to self-medicate. He also used tobacco and pot. Lung cancer is what killed him. He was a depressive, one of the so-called "walking wounded". My SIL had expressed concerns about his depression and had urged him to get help, which he never did. As that old saying goes "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"...
So then alcohol had nothing to do with it, he died not from depression or from alcohol but from lung cancer, and that was surely more from cigarettes than from marijuana according to most studies.

If a person is hiding his drinking he's surely drinking more than he should.

Also, not sure about how others feel about it but while I tend to dislike drunks, I also dislike people who never drink nor smoke pot. They tend to be uptight and/or boring imho.

I would never date a woman who didn't drink at all. Nor would I date one who drank a lot.
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Old 07-28-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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I thought you said you took pills.
No. I take an aspirin about 4 times a year!
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Old 07-28-2018, 06:18 PM
 
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So then alcohol had nothing to do with it, he died not from depression or from alcohol but from lung cancer, and that was surely more from cigarettes than from marijuana according to most studies.

If a person is hiding his drinking he's surely drinking more than he should.

Also, not sure about how others feel about it but while I tend to dislike drunks, I also dislike people who never drink nor smoke pot. They tend to be uptight and/or boring imho.

I would never date a woman who didn't drink at all. Nor would I date one who drank a lot.
:Shrug: Your choice. However, it sounds like you haven't met a large cross section of people. Not all who don't smoke pot or drink are "uptight and/or boring".
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