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Old 08-26-2018, 04:53 AM
 
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I have a colonoscopy every 2 years and do it without sedation because for me it is a painless procedure and sedation makes me ill. This works for me but not for others and fortunately people have the choice as to what works for them.



The original poster is surely trolling in their posing colonoscopies are done in the nude in Europe (which I highly doubt is true). Wearing a gown and being covered with a sheet does not slow the process down or add but pennies to the cost. Only voyeurs would advocate for leaving patients nude during this procedure.
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Old 08-26-2018, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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For example, in Europe when getting a colonoscopy they don't knock you out, hell you don't even wear a gown, you do most everything without sedation and fully nude everywhere else. Only Americans are wimps and prudes about these kinds of things.
Who really cares? That being said: I guess we now know another reason why socialized medicine isn't the answer.

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Old 08-26-2018, 05:12 AM
 
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we can say a lot of derogatory things about America.... or Americans....but chances are you weren't there the days after those towers fell, as was I, as were my friends, all my neighbors, sure, as a native New Yorker, and a daughter of a Port Authority police officer, who died immediately after that horrific day, I most likely am very biased. VERY.....but do not dare say to me that Americans are wimps, do not tell me that Americans do not possess a courage, a strength, a deserved pride. Shame on you.
We spend nearly as much on our military as the rest of the world combined, we have more guns than people and now some people want a wall to cower behind. The home of the wimps, not the brave.
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Old 08-26-2018, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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We spend nearly as much on our military as the rest of the world combined, we have more guns than people and now some people want a wall to cower behind. The home of the wimps, not the brave.
Not even close: we are not wimps, at least those of us who respect our country are proud and happy to be living in a country that is free, are not wimps. The men and women who put their lives on the line to protect us from harm are not wimps. The amount of money we spend on military and the number of guns has nothing to do with beings wimps. Maybe you need to explain that statement a little better. It makes no sense.
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Old 08-26-2018, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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To clarify - not sure how it's done in every hospital in the US, but around here, it's not "general anesthesia" in the sense of that deep sort of anesthesia for colonoscopies. It's a super light "dose." In fact, it's very very common for the patient to actually wake up during the procedure, talk, etc. My husband did that by the way. It was described to us as a sort of anesthesia that is inhaled, not injected, and you're literally one deep breath away from being awake and many do wake up,

There are many types of "general anesthesia" and this is the very lightest, lowest risk form - and get this, it's actually optional around here, but since insurance generally covers it, it's super low risk, and it's so easy to wake up from with no ill effects, that's how most folks just do it.

After my colonoscopy, which was around 8 am, we went out to eat breakfast. I felt great. We were home and I was out working in the yard by noon.
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:17 AM
 
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Not even close: we are not wimps, at least those of us who respect our country are proud and happy to be living in a country that is free, are not wimps. The men and women who put their lives on the line to protect us from harm are not wimps. The amount of money we spend on military and the number of guns has nothing to do with beings wimps. Maybe you need to explain that statement a little better. It makes no sense.
A lot of countries are just as free as we are without spending hundreds of billions on weapons that can`t be used and yes hiding behind guns and walls is cowardly. What needs to be explained? This is off topic so I`m done here.
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:20 AM
 
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I have friends who have had colonoscopies and no sedation. They werent given a choice.
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:39 AM
 
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For example, in Europe when getting a colonoscopy they don't knock you out, hell you don't even wear a gown, you do most everything without sedation and fully nude everywhere else. Only Americans are wimps and prudes about these kinds of things.
And why do American restaurants have signs in the restrooms exhorting emplyees to wash their hands after relieving themselves?

How did we get to a nation of germophobic sissies?

You can bet the Euros do it THEIR WAY, however they please and laugh at us uncultured Americans.
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:47 AM
 
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In Europe, socialized medicine doesn't cover the cost of even the mild sedative that GI MDs use in the US to lessen the risk of a patient "flinching" and causing serious damage to the intestinal mucosa.
So, we have had 9/11 sucked into this silly thread as if it had a flying fart to do with the OP's totally inaccurate characterization, and now it is going to be the American St. George attacking the dragon of socialized medicine.

"Socialized medicine" where? In what system?

I have private health insurance but also use the national system, no problems with being given a sedative. I was not given one in Lennox Hill Hospital in NYC in the 90's, but that was then and this is now and I assume that things have changed even in primitive Manhattan, NYC, so I will refrain from saying, "but, but, but", or should that be butt, butt, butt.[/quote]

Let's take a break from sandpapering our skins so we can be offended, and enjoy a pleasant Sunday.

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Response above assumes of course that the original OP ain't a lonely troll seeking attention.
Five will get you ten that it is exactly that, and people got sucked into it like a bunch of teenagers having a mass hysteria attack.
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Old 08-26-2018, 09:32 AM
 
Location: State of Denial
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Reminds me about the story of the boy who comes into the dentist's office, with his smaller brother in tow.


The boy says to the dentist, "I've got a tooth that needs to be pulled and I'm in a hurry, so I don't want any novacaine."


The dentist remarks, "Well, you are a brave young lad! Which tooth is it?"


The boy turns to his little brother and says, "Ralphie, show him your tooth."
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