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Old 09-21-2018, 10:56 AM
 
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Handicapped stalls are not reserved for the handicapped in the sense that some think that they are. If someone goes into a restroom and finds all stalls in use without a handicapped person in sight, they can use it. It's not meant to be an empty stall, waiting for a handicapped person to appear. And yes, as one poster noted, though they accommodate wheelchairs, there are other disabilities for which these stalls can be used.
I believe I made that perfectly clear in my first post. Yes, your right, the stalls are sometimes full and the handicapped is the only one available, then by all means, use it....

What I am saying is, if the other stalls are not being used, when you walk in, then please use them, first...but if they are full, then use the handicapped stalls. Simple....

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Sometimes even the elderly with range of motion issues or other non-visible afflictions may need the extra space afforded by the handicapped stalls. I once saw a woman accompany a shuffling, quite elderly woman (her mom, probably) into one.
Of course.....

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The etiquette is effortless enough, or should be: If you have to "go" so badly that you enter a restroom in the first place, use one of the regular stalls. If they're all in use, and there's no one behind you, use the handicapped stall, and get the heck out of there. If there are people behind you who don't appear to be handicapped, just ask if anyone needs the handicapped stall before using it yourself. Of course, should one of the regular ones become available, use that.

Few things in life are this simple.

and that is exactly what we presented to others at work, in hopes the company would circulate a gentle reminder to others about this...I really don't believe people do this on purpose, they simply forget...and go for the handicapped stall....

We've discussed this many times, at work in mixed company, and for some disabled people, it is a big problem...so, that's why I started this thread, as a gentle reminder, to be a tad more aware if you can...and if you don't wish to fine, that's your choice.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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So let's say someone uses the handicap stall for ANY reason, what is the inconvenience? A 3 minute wait?
Honey, let me tell you, when you grow older, you'll understand, some older people have IBS, and they can't hold it...they simply can't. Others like the poster, above me explained....

I think we become so busy with our lives, we forget to be thoughtful sometimes.

I had back surgery, and had to use a walker at work...now you know you can't get into those smaller stalls with a walker....and I'd wait, and when someone would walk out of the handicapped stall and see me, they'd be so embarrassed they were using it, so I tried to let them know, "no worries", but I bet they thought about it next time.

I know woman who have had knee replacements, men using crutches at work...who absolutely cannot use the shorter toilets..it's so painful.

people have all kinds of medical disabilities that you don't even realize...so...

Keep in mind, a person could have a handicap that you don't realize, or see....so..all I'm asking is that people become more Cognizant of that...that's all...
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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Honey, let me tell you, when you grow older, you'll understand, some older people have IBS, and they can't hold it...they simply can't. Others like the poster, above me explained....

I think we become so busy with our lives, we forget to be thoughtful sometimes.

I had back surgery, and had to use a walker at work...now you know you can't get into those smaller stalls with a walker....and I'd wait, and when someone would walk out of the handicapped stall and see me, they'd be so embarrassed they were using it, so I tried to let them know, "no worries", but I bet they thought about it next time.

I know woman who have had knee replacements, men using crutches at work...who absolutely cannot use the shorter toilets..it's so painful.

Keep in mind, a person could have a handicap that you don't realize, or see....so..all I'm asking is that people become more Cognizant of that...that's all...

Yes, some people can forget to be thoughtful.


For example, you can have IBS and not be handicapped, like me.

And yes, someone can be handicapped and not look it..... like me.

When first diagnosed with RA and FM I could hardly walk, and I mean that literally, and I was offered handicapped sticker for parking and all that, but didn't take (not noble, just didn't want to admit defeat ). I looked great though.

So you may want to rethink your pre-conceived notions.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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Honey, let me tell you, when you grow older, you'll understand, some older people have IBS, and they can't hold it...they simply can't.
Someone might have that that is not in a wheelchair, so if the handicap stall is the only one open, should they wait?

FWIW, I only use the handicap stall if it's the only one available at the moment.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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FWIW, I only use the handicap stall if it's the only one available at the moment.
No SanyBelle, of course they shouldn't wait...
I'm not trying to be funny or smart mouthed or offensive, am I somehow not being clear?

IBS is not a funny matter...and people who have it cannot wait...and until someone experiences, that and Crone disease, or Ulcerative colitis, is what I'm speaking of.

Thank you SanyBelle, for being aware of that....

When I was younger, say 20 years ago, I wasn't aware of it, and yet, would have felt so bad, if I had known someone had an accident b/c I was using that stall....

honestly, they should put higher toilets in bathrooms and come out of the dark ages...seriously...and a lot of people agree with me....it's time....companies, public rest rooms....it's time to update...
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:27 AM
 
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Yes, some people can forget to be thoughtful.


For example, you can have IBS and not be handicapped, like me.

And yes, someone can be handicapped and not look it..... like me.

When first diagnosed with RA and FM I could hardly walk, and I mean that literally, and I was offered handicapped sticker for parking and all that, but didn't take (not noble, just didn't want to admit defeat ). I looked great though.

I'm sorry but know your not alone....and I'm so glad your able to talk about it, it needs to be discussed, and considered. Thank you, and hugs.

So you may want to rethink your pre-conceived notions.
I'm suffering the same, now contemplate someone in a wheel chair, who has a bag, like my step-dad did, who can't wait...it's sad, and I really think personally more companies and public owners should be aware of that.
Do you know some diners only have one toilet for the whole restaurant for men and woman. I mean, how do they get away with that?

When people are in their youth, honestly I don't believe they think about handicaps such as we're discussing, but it really does need to be discussed.

We had a woman a work, had IBS, and she couldn't wait, someone was using the handicapped toilet...she had an accident...she retired, never came back to work she was so embarrassed. Poor woman.....

Me, I've got joint problems, it's difficult to walk, sit, stand up...and it is so painful to use the lower toilets...
so, thought I'd start this thread to bring more awareness to the public...it needs to be for so many people that you are not aware of, who have problems.

Thank you....

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Old 09-21-2018, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Denver area
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Honey, let me tell you, when you grow older, you'll understand, some older people have IBS, and they can't hold it...they simply can't. Others like the poster, above me explained....

I think we become so busy with our lives, we forget to be thoughtful sometimes.

I had back surgery, and had to use a walker at work...now you know you can't get into those smaller stalls with a walker....and I'd wait, and when someone would walk out of the handicapped stall and see me, they'd be so embarrassed they were using it, so I tried to let them know, "no worries", but I bet they thought about it next time.

I know woman who have had knee replacements, men using crutches at work...who absolutely cannot use the shorter toilets..it's so painful.

people have all kinds of medical disabilities that you don't even realize...so...

Keep in mind, a person could have a handicap that you don't realize, or see....so..all I'm asking is that people become more Cognizant of that...that's all...
IBS does not only affect the elderly.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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IBS does not only affect the elderly.
I know that Maciesmom, I do
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I was using the restroom in a shopping mall yesterday (that I had not visited in a few years) and was delighted to see that they had remodeled the bathrooms. The women's bathroom now had about ten or twelve regular stalls and two handicapped stalls. I thought that was pretty practical.

The door was open to the "family restroom" (private bathroom) and it was huge. You could easily fit a wheelchair or walker inside. It also had two toilets (not two stalls, but two toilets with a short divider between them). I suspect that would come in handy if you had several small children, all waiting to use the toilet.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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I was using the restroom in a shopping mall yesterday (that I had not visited in a few years) and was delighted to see that they had remodeled the bathrooms. The women's bathroom now had about ten or twelve regular stalls and two handicapped stalls. I thought that was pretty practical.

The door was open to the "family restroom" (private bathroom) and it was huge. You could easily fit a wheelchair or walker inside. It also had two toilets (not two stalls, but two toilets with a short divider between them). I suspect that would come in handy if you had several small children, all waiting to use the toilet.
Wow, wonderful!!!! I have not seen it yet, but there is hope....lol

I hope our company catches on.
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