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Old 10-09-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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As has been stated, MOST people (a GREAT preponderance >80%) who are exposed to HPV, "get" HPV, the disease or condition resolves on its own. The small percent who go on to get cancers must be due to immune system or other variables.

The vaccine is not without risks.

 
Old 10-09-2018, 03:15 PM
 
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I guess you are immune to HPV already - congrats. How exactly did you elicit your adaptive immune system to recognize the HPV virus. Vitamins perhaps? Wheat grass drinks? Something clever I'm sure.



BTW Pharma is trying to invent another blockbuster disease after they made so much money creating HIV. And they are concerned that someone will figure out the lock combination on the safe holding the cure to cancer deep inside Merck Labs. Fortunately, superior intelligence like yours can see through the ruse.

The vast majority of people will not only get HPV but also clear HPV via their immune system without any symptoms. Odds are the poster you are talking to has had it and so have you and so have I.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 03:21 PM
 
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It's not just cervical cancer and genital warts. HPV causes head and neck cancers, too. The reason why it wasn't approved for over 26 was that most people get infected with it shortly after they become sexually active, it's so widespread.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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It's not just cervical cancer and genital warts. HPV causes head and neck cancers, too. The reason why it wasn't approved for over 26 was that most people get infected with it shortly after they become sexually active, it's so widespread.
Very true. HPV contributes to head, neck, throat, anal and cervical cancer. Other factors that play a significant role are smoking, alcohol use, hormonal birth control, unprotected sex of any kind, having a compromised immune system, lack of regular Pap smears, etc.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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"Lack of regular Pap smears" does not CAUSE HPV.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 04:00 PM
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As has been stated, MOST people (a GREAT preponderance >80%) who are exposed to HPV, "get" HPV, the disease or condition resolves on its own. The small percent who go on to get cancers must be due to immune system or other variables.

The vaccine is not without risks.
When 80%-90% of the entire population get an infection, it doesn't matter that "only" a small percent actually develop cancer. That's still a lot of people! I posted some stats above. Did you not even look at them? There are >30,000 (thirty thousand, 3000 X 10, 300 X100, etc) cases of HPV caused cancer diagnosed every year! In 10 years, that is >300,000 people!

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The vast majority of people will not only get HPV but also clear HPV via their immune system without any symptoms. Odds are the poster you are talking to has had it and so have you and so have I.
See above.

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It's not just cervical cancer and genital warts. HPV causes head and neck cancers, too. The reason why it wasn't approved for over 26 was that most people get infected with it shortly after they become sexually active, it's so widespread.
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Very true. HPV contributes to head, neck, throat, anal and cervical cancer. Other factors that play a significant role are smoking, alcohol use, hormonal birth control, unprotected sex of any kind, having a compromised immune system, lack of regular Pap smears, etc.
Since people are smoking less, HPV is thought to cause ~70% of oropharyngeal cancers. It causes about 99% of cervical cancer. About 50% of people diagnosed with cervical cancer have had a pap smear in the past 5 years. Regarding hormonal birth control, using such BC for >5 years may increase risk per The American Cancer Society. Very few people have a "compromised immune system"; lots of people get cervical cancer.

**Do not be fooled into thinking if you don't smoke, don't drink, don't use alcohol, or have unprotected sex that you are immune from HPV cancers.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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"Lack of regular Pap smears" does not CAUSE HPV.
Of course lack of Pap smears does not cause HPV. Failure to get regular Pap smears which can detect early changes to cervical cells prior to becoming cancerous can lead to cervical cancer though.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 04:35 PM
 
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**Do not be fooled into thinking if you don't smoke, don't drink, don't use alcohol, or have unprotected sex that you are immune from HPV cancers.
Of course not but smoking, alcohol use, unprotected sex, hormonal contraception and a compromised immune system all up one’s risk of HPV associated cancers and in some cases quite dramatically.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 04:37 PM
 
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I guess you are immune to HPV already - congrats. How exactly did you elicit your adaptive immune system to recognize the HPV virus. Vitamins perhaps? Wheat grass drinks? Something clever I'm sure.



BTW Pharma is trying to invent another blockbuster disease after they made so much money creating HIV. And they are concerned that someone will figure out the lock combination on the safe holding the cure to cancer deep inside Merck Labs. Fortunately, superior intelligence like yours can see through the ruse.
You do know that according to the CDC, nearly every sexually active adult in the US has been exposed to HPV. That is millions and millions and millions of people. If you only look at women the number of adult women is around 126 million. And most dont even know it or have any consequences. So why are we vaccinating people most of whom have been exposed to the disease with no ill effect? Is this a drug in search of a problem.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 04:58 PM
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You do know that according to the CDC, nearly every sexually active adult in the US has been exposed to HPV. That is millions and millions and millions of people. If you only look at women the number of adult women is around 126 million. And most dont even know it or have any consequences. So why are we vaccinating people most of whom have been exposed to the disease with no ill effect? Is this a drug in search of a problem.
Because of the 13,000 women annually who are diagnosed with cervical cancer, plus the 18,000 men and women (mostly MEN) annually who are diagnosed with oropharyngeal cancer.
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