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Excuse me, I meant not long after their births!!!!
And as forever what goes on here is the group who have vested financial interests in pharma and those who seek to heal as holistically as possible and not make their living from pharma.
What you said was "at birth".
We vaccinate babies so they will not get diseases that can cause serious disability or death. Why do you believe we should not do that?
We all know that when you say "group" you mean me. You have been told before that I do not now and never have worked for a pharmaceutical company. You can repeat the accusation ad nauseum. It does not make it true. What evidence do you have that anyone here works for a pharmaceutical company? The only one I know who has worked for pharma is fisheye, who has been very open about it. You might want to reconsider making accusations that you cannot support with evidence.
You're always running around like holistic and other alternative medicines are only there for the patients and never make any profit - that is not exactly true. Virtually every claim you make about 'big pharma' you can make about alternative medicine. You still have large companies trying to make a buck whatever way they can. There are greedy people on that side of the isle just like on the other side. If they can find a way to package and sell something they get for almost nothing; they would.
I can say that I helped make a products that saved millions from pain, suffering and death. There are not to many people manufacturing alternative medicines that can make the same claim.
And I'm not running around as you say I am.
Everyone is in business to make money, no one is there to give us freebees.. this includes the food industry, vitamins, supplements, acupuncture, surgery, PT -- you name it everyone is there to make a living...but so many of the pharma drugs do cause so much more damage, I've been there so I speak from my life.
I've said plenty of times I take a few pharma meds, so don't try to put words in my mouth and twist my words.
We vaccinate babies so they will not get diseases that can cause serious disability or death. Why do you believe we should not do that?
We all know that when you say "group" you mean me. You have been told before that I do not now and never have worked for a pharmaceutical company. You can repeat the accusation ad nauseum. It does not make it true. What evidence do you have that anyone here works for a pharmaceutical company? The only one I know who has worked for pharma is fisheye, who has been very open about it. You might want to reconsider making accusations that you cannot support with evidence.
I said Excuse Me For My Big Mistake in my words....
And BD is an MD so it's been said, your husband is an MD and isn't that pretty close to home.
And by group, I mean the pharma group. And that's a large enough group in the whole U.S. when you get down to it.
The pharma people knock and attack the alternative world every chance they can..do you deny that. Even trying to keep info in Alt Med the info is attacked and done as much as can be done to be discredited and then so much is deleted...I'm done here. Go at it.
SOON AFTER birth they are given many vaccines. The FDA "trusts" the drug companieThe drug companies don't have to let us know exactly what is in them.s because they are working together to sell as many drugs as possible to the public.
"Guidelines for the labeling of inactive ingredients from the U.S. Pharmacopeia (USP), which sets standards for medicine that are enforceable by the FDA, require manufacturers to disclose every single ingredient in all medications. So it's possible to learn whether something you need to avoid is lurking in your drugs.
"Every drug manufacturer is obliged to list every excipient, every little part including coloring and flavors for each drug," says Andrzej Wilk, PhD, senior scientific liaison to USP's Nomenclature, Safety and Labeling Expert Committee. "This can be found on the package of a prescription drug or in the drug's package insert. For over-the-counter drugs, inactive ingredients have to be on the outside of the box."
VERY YOUNG babies are given ridiculous numbers of vaccines. Many of them for diseases the baby is almost certainly not going to get.
Drug companies don't have to test the safety of giving babies all these vaccines together. The number of vaccines required keeps increasing. This is all because the vaccine makers influence the laws.
Trusting the vaccine makers makes no sense. There are plenty of scientists who are very skeptical. You only listen to the mainstream opinion -- they try their best to silence alternative opinions.
Right! They're most likely not going to get these diseases due to the fact that so many of those diseases have been eradicated because of the vaccines.
* You will find many, perhaps most physicians do not care for DTC advertising. They really do not like for patients to come in asking for meds that may be totally inappropriate for them. Anyway, these days the insurance companies control most prescribing choices by refusing to pay for newer drugs until older ones have been tried first.
* Vioxx is often brought up as if its story is typical of all medications. It is not.
* Lipitor is available as a generic. There is no reason to pay for the brand name drug.
* Doctors are sensitive to the prices of medications and will do what they can to help patients with financial concerns.
* The article is over six years old. Doctors are no longer allowed to accept gifts from drug companies, not even trivial things like pens, post its, and coffee mugs. The most they get is usually a modest meal to listen to someone talk about a drug. Many docs no longer accept even that.
* Potential conflicts of interest must be disclosed with every journal article published.
* The article ends with a commercial for "Medicare for all". An agenda, perhaps?
I hear Vioxx drug rep pens are worth a pretty penny nowadays...
I wouldn't be opposed to a cycle of antibiotics if necessary or life-saving medications administered in an emergency, but I'd make sure I exhausted a few practical alternatives (lifestyle changes) before I committed to being dependent on a pill for the rest of my life.
Murphy's Law can happen, and not having access to medications during a travel mishap or natural disaster is just one more thing to worry about on top of the catastrophe itself. Question your doctors if something doesn't sound right, and don't be afraid to get a second opinion.
This applies to procedures, as well as prescription.
It pains me to see so many people who see their GP as some absolute authority not to be second guessed. Or dentist. Or specialist. (Or mechanic.) It doesn't occur to some patients that the professionals in charge of administering treatments and making recommendations are sometimes simply trying to set a record quarter for themselves in billable services. Or working for someone who is.
I look at it like this - if you're not in an ambulance, you've got time to ask anything that's on your mind. Especially if we're talking about surgery. Get 2, 3 opinions from different hospitals. You might discover a more conservative, alternative procedure that allows you to recover more quickly.
Everyone is in business to make money, no one is there to give us freebees.. this includes the food industry, vitamins, supplements, acupuncture, surgery, PT -- you name it everyone is there to make a living...but so many of the pharma drugs do cause so much more damage, I've been there so I speak from my life.
I've said plenty of times I take a few pharma meds, so don't try to put words in my mouth and twist my words.
What I am saying is that nobody in the alternative medicine field can make the claim as I can (that I played a small roll in saving millions of lives). You look at people that suffered terribly from smallpox and I helped eradicate in in the whole world. Of course I was just a small cog in the machinery; but you cannot make me feel bad about the part I played.
I have been there to see what government regulations do to the cost of manufacturing and I am not complaining. They do that for a reason and that reason is safety. Of course not all pharmaceutical companies are the same. Some have different products and some use a different processes. When I see one company up the price 400% of a drug; I would want to know why: https://www.kansascity.com/news/busi...218330465.html. I would think greed without hearing a good answer.
But it's impossible to convince anyone at this forum. Probably most of them are taking drugs, so they don't want to look at the facts.
Don't make broad assumptions. I don't use any prescribed medications at all. Have I in the past? Of course. Before I decide to use anything new I research available alternatives. Can't speak for anyone else's decisionmaking process and neither should you.
Trump has proposed that in order for Pharms to advertise their drugs on TV they must list the price of their medications. FiercePharma.com is not happy with this. It might force some to stop advertising on TV at all. That wouldn't be a GOOD thing?
As the OP said, "Ask you doctor, etc." No, I am not going to ask my non-existent doctor anything, let alone for some drug advertised on TV. What the H are all these illnesses and code words for them to begin with??????? We must be a very, very sick society.
Ask Your Doctor if This Big Pharma Scam Is Right for You: The Dangers of a Drugged Up America
In medicated America, the fix for every problem is just a prescription away. Except that it's not.
By Jim Hightower
Welcome to medicated America, where the fix for every problem--from incontinence to erectile dysfunction, stiff joints to mood swings, weight gain to wrinkles-- is just a prescription away.
Fully agree! But it's the over-sheltered, overgrown children (precisely the sort of people the OP wants to lead around by the nose on other issues) who fall most easily for this medical poguey-bait.
And it was a conventionally-developed and -promoted drug (Harvoni) which, after careful review, wiped out an HCV infection and returned me to the pool of insurables a few years ago.
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