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Old 10-22-2018, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Central Connecticut
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If 911 is called, resuscitation will not be attempted if, and only if, the patient is wearing a DNR bracelet provided by a doctor. This is what I was told by the EMT who responded to a 911 call after my father fell a couple of years ago. He was wearing such a bracelet (but didn't need resuscitation anyway).
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:44 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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If 911 is called, resuscitation will not be attempted if, and only if, the patient is wearing a DNR bracelet provided by a doctor. This is what I was told by the EMT who responded to a 911 call after my father fell a couple of years ago. He was wearing such a bracelet (but didn't need resuscitation anyway).
Fascinating. I wonder if this is true in all cities and states, and if so, how the public is supposed to know this.
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Old 10-22-2018, 04:49 PM
 
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Additionally, states specify what form a DNR must be in to be considered legally binding.
Commonly accepted forms of DNRs include:
Cards
Completed official forms
Approved necklets and bracelets

(NOT necklaces)
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:14 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Additionally, states specify what form a DNR must be in to be considered legally binding.
Commonly accepted forms of DNRs include:
Cards
Completed official forms
Approved necklets and bracelets

(NOT necklaces)
I'm sure in the heat of the emergency moment an EMT isn't searching for records or sending some attendant running for one. They are doing their minute-dependent job. If I had a DNR order in place I would have something on my person at all times stating that fact.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:50 PM
 
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When another relative was dying, I had to convince someone in the house not to dial 911. I said, "do you want him dying on a cold gurney, or here at home (which was his wish)?
Can't argue with that.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:59 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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Can't argue with that.
It was hard, because the person was hysterical, but in the end, they listened to me and I am so grateful because the person was spared additional trauma.
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Canada
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IF someone is either at home ( having Family Caregivers with daily visits by HC ( nurse) visiting and patient is deemed "END STAGE" ..UP here in Canada .. It's pre-written that it's "Hospice" care.. and IF Family calls THEY should have a # that would be more supportive and explanatory.. 911 responses is NOT whatPatient and Family should have already signed off!

DEATH with DIGNITY being surrounded by loved ones as happens in "HOSPICE" environment... But at home Care really should have multi-level involvement.

As to Feeding tube is only prolonging and best used when patient is awake and lucid ( which gives time for family to interact) however, if it's ONLY to prolong someone's bodily existence...It's sheerly for family to believe or have TIME to accept what's coming!

End of Life decisions should be discussed amongst close family members.. It's imperative for ALL to understand it!! END OF LIFE does NOT have to be NEGATIVE.. It's something Every living being will experience.. So, IF sudden death didn't occur.. then celebrate whatever time you surviving loving family members have
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:36 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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IF someone is either at home ( having Family Caregivers with daily visits by HC ( nurse) visiting and patient is deemed "END STAGE" ..UP here in Canada .. It's pre-written that it's "Hospice" care.. and IF Family calls THEY should have a # that would be more supportive and explanatory.. 911 responses is NOT whatPatient and Family should have already signed off!

DEATH with DIGNITY being surrounded by loved ones as happens in "HOSPICE" environment... But at home Care really should have multi-level involvement.

As to Feeding tube is only prolonging and best used when patient is awake and lucid ( which gives time for family to interact) however, if it's ONLY to prolong someone's bodily existence...It's sheerly for family to believe or have TIME to accept what's coming!

End of Life decisions should be discussed amongst close family members.. It's imperative for ALL to understand it!! END OF LIFE does NOT have to be NEGATIVE.. It's something Every living being will experience.. So, IF sudden death didn't occur.. then celebrate whatever time you surviving loving family members have
Could not agree more!
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Old 10-23-2018, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Oort cloud
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Worked in a nursing home.
DNR only means DO NOT RESUSCITATE. It does not mean do not hospitalize. It does not mean do not provide care. It doesn't mean don't call 911. It doesn't mean don't provide emergency measures and have the staff running around frantically.It doesn't mean no feeding tubes.

All it means is once the heart stop beating compressions are not to be initiated.

In my state DNR must be on a yellow paperto be considered legal. In my nursing home this yellow paper was placed at the front of the chart. The charts also had DNR stickers on the outside, the electronic record indicated DNR or CPR, some patients had DNR wristbands. With a lot of varying degrees of dementia, wristbands tend to find themselves in odd places.
When a DNR patient was sent to a hospital the yellow DNR paper had to go with them or else they would lose their DNR status until a new yellow paper was obtained. Sometimes papers get mixed up, electronic records don't get updated correctly, systems glitch, wristbands get put in the garbage, stickers fall off. The final say so was the yellow paper. DNR status was only determined by physical confirmation of the yellow paper RIGHT NOW.
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Old 10-23-2018, 11:09 AM
 
Location: planet earth
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Worked in a nursing home.
DNR only means DO NOT RESUSCITATE. It does not mean do not hospitalize. It does not mean do not provide care. It doesn't mean don't call 911. It doesn't mean don't provide emergency measures and have the staff running around frantically.It doesn't mean no feeding tubes.

All it means is once the heart stop beating compressions are not to be initiated.

In my state DNR must be on a yellow paperto be considered legal. In my nursing home this yellow paper was placed at the front of the chart. The charts also had DNR stickers on the outside, the electronic record indicated DNR or CPR, some patients had DNR wristbands. With a lot of varying degrees of dementia, wristbands tend to find themselves in odd places.
When a DNR patient was sent to a hospital the yellow DNR paper had to go with them or else they would lose their DNR status until a new yellow paper was obtained. Sometimes papers get mixed up, electronic records don't get updated correctly, systems glitch, wristbands get put in the garbage, stickers fall off. The final say so was the yellow paper. DNR status was only determined by physical confirmation of the yellow paper RIGHT NOW.
I know exactly what it means.

Glad your nursing home had some kind of system to identify DNR patients.
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