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Ornish got great results using higher carbs & lower fats. I think, IMHO, that since the body hasn't evolved any different since '91, it is the environmental probs causing heart issues.
So, yes, Ornish now adds moderate nuts/seeds but still likes low fat dairy or low fats in gen. A leap from the early 90s diet he used. If so, it can only HELP heart pt's as this refines the heart diet even more. It is still (his diet) rated #1 yr after yr for Heart diets.
The Mediterrean is v good too but believe it or not, Ornish's diet rates better. Hmm, I combine his & Mediterrean w/ fish & no red meat, poultry, etc. I eat tempeh, some whey protein, some plant protein powders & chia, hemp, or pea or even rice proteins. Rice & beans are a cheap staple. Yes, I eat whole eggs, but eat non fat dairy yogurt. Also, Almond or Cashew milk. Lots of fruit, veggies & complex carbs as such including yams & boiled/bakes potatoes.
Relative was in hospital a few weeks ago and got a stent. The heart diet she came home with definitely was low fat with no cheese or whole dairy products included!
Lowering heart disease odds if you are have a genetic predisposition is tough. Something close to the paleo diet would be best... reduced carb, high in lean meats, salads, fish, fresh and cooked vegetables... but if you have bad genes you're basically screwed no matter what you eat.
Like it or not when we evolved as a species we didn't necessarily pass on genetic traits that made us long lived.. it was more important that we passed on our seed to the next generation and we really only had to live to about the age of 35 to do that, since we were having kids at age 13-25 through most of evolutionary history.... it's why most people start to hit a wall around 40 where the body suddenly falls apart.
500 years ago being 50 would have made you an elder. It's just the way it is. Perhaps with enough time or genetic engineering we can "fix" these problems. However, I would not recommend eating high amounts of saturated fat if you have high cholesterol. If anything I'd eat a high amount of omega-9 fats along with a low carb diet. I admit I could be wrong. It's possible a zero carb diet high in saturated fat could work in preventing heart disease. Carbs as a whole damage the body more than saturated fat, all things taken into consideration. It's really bad food combining along with excess calories that is the worst, though.. it's having high carb and high fat at the same time and then overeating on top of it.. the inflammation caused by the carbs combined with the free fatty acids now being assimilated is a double whammy.
I think all this research proves there are no right or wrong ways to do things or to eat. I guess it goes without saying, smaller is better or as many of us know: moderation is the answer. The research done today will be outdated next year. I take the research with a grain of salt . But that is just me.
Relative was in hospital a few weeks ago and got a stent. The heart diet she came home with definitely was low fat with no cheese or whole dairy products included!
I agree in that it hurts not-- to reduce fats (even theoretical good ones) -- & thus avoid probs. If it turns out those fats are ok, then we just did w/out. If tho it turns out they were bad -- then we cannot undue damage -- as you can't take back food ingested.
Also, re cholesterol & food intake; from what I know ingested (exogenous) high cholesterol foods do not amount to increasing endogenous cholesterol. Our bodies produce the amount we have inside, whether it becomes too much or too little is not outside food. I have super low but it is a cancer risk says my doc. So either way, extremes hurt. But v little I can do to boost it -- other than exercise, red wine & a few ideas as such.
Yes, sugar & carbs aren't ok. But even brown or basmati rice, sprouted bread, whole wheat pasta, etc. turns to glucose, thus -- tho they are better than candy bars in that they're slower digestion & lower insulin response -- they still form glucose & can damage arteries via high bld sugar.
Ok, much more from you guys is welcome. I also, eat a few eggs daily (whole eggs) & no change in cholesterol -- good or bad -- is seen in a yr or so. Just an aside.
If you are eating carbs as your main source of energy, to me, limiting fat does make sense.
OTOH, if you are eating low-carb, you need fat as an energy-source. Or you can just eat a lot of protein, much of it will get converted into glucose anyways.
If you are eating carbs as your main source of energy, to me, limiting fat does make sense.
OTOH, if you are eating low-carb, you need fat as an energy-source. Or you can just eat a lot of protein, much of it will get converted into glucose anyways.
Protein does convert via gluconeogenesis yet hard on kidneys thus limit my intake. I moderate good carbs w/ fats -- nuts & seeds, some dairy & cheese, & fish & protein powders or rice & beans, tempeh, etc. It works ok for now.
Protein does convert via gluconeogenesis yet hard on kidneys thus limit my intake. I moderate good carbs w/ fats -- nuts & seeds, some dairy & cheese, & fish & protein powders or rice & beans, tempeh, etc. It works ok for now.
I just find my energy going down and down when I start eating carbs, even a moderate amount of
"good" carbs. In all honest, I believe that I am probably an undiagnosed type-2 diabetic......have seen some quite high BS reading.
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