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Old 10-26-2018, 12:09 PM
 
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After stem cell transplant, man with MS able to walk and dance for first time in 10 years

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Please click the CBS news article above, read it and watch this amazing miracle video of this man, who was confined to a wheelchair for 10 years from the progressive disease MS, start moving, walking and ultimately dancing again.

The "two people on that program went into Sheffield Hospital in wheelchairs and they both came out walking," Palmer said."

Stem Cells. The new (and possibly final frontier of medical science). From all my research, miracles like what happened in the article listed above are either happening or showing incredible early results in multiple fields of medicine and human disease. From Parkinsons, to ALS, to herniated discs, to MS, to brain injury, to nerve repair, to heart repair, to stroke recovery. The list goes on and on regarding what regenerative medicine and stem cells either are currently treating or have had remarkable results in early trials. While stem cell trials and use on humans is in its infancy, I truly believe stem cells will revolutionize healing, restoration and human disease.
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Old 10-27-2018, 10:58 AM
 
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The man is in England and if this is true, how great. Stem Cells are used in various parts of the world and for MS, I have a friend who had to pay for them in the Dominican Republic and she's still doing pretty well in her late 60's. My sister's MS specialists in NYC kept her hanging on for stem cells for the MS she dealt with for probably 10 yrs or more and they never came thru for her, she passed from this dread disease a couple yrs ago at 68. They kept her in hope but never came thru, good old U.S. Pharma got a LOT of money from her and in spite of all the drugs is gone. My thinking all the drugs did more harm than good. Nutrition is so important in so many diseases and same for MS and I often wonder how much her doctors preached nutrition to her. We were on opposite sides of the country so I don't know and I know she loved her sugars...

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Old 10-27-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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The man is in England and if this is true, how great. Stem Cells are used in various parts of the world and for MS, I have a friend who had to pay for them in the Dominican Republic and she's still doing pretty well in her late 60's. My sister's MS specialists in NYC kept her hanging on for stem cells for the MS she dealt with for probably 10 yrs or more and they never came thru for her, she passed from this dread disease a couple yrs ago at 68. They kept her in hope but never came thru, good old U.S. Pharma got a LOT of money from her and in spite of all the drugs is gone. My thinking all the drugs did more harm than good. Nutrition is so important in so many diseases and same for MS and I often wonder how much her doctors preached nutrition to her. We were on opposite sides of the country so I don't know and I know she loved her sugars...
The man in the OP is participating in a study designed to see whether the procedure works. The treatment is not available to just anyone who asks for it, and it carries significant risks, since the immune system has to be wiped out before the stem cells are given. It is very similar to a bone marrow transplant.

Your sister's doctors could not "come through for her" because it had not been determined whether stem cell transplant would help MS and whether the benefit exceeded the risk.

From previous threads, if I remember correctly, you do not even know what medications your sister took, so how can you say they "did more harm than good"?
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Old 10-27-2018, 12:40 PM
 
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The man in the OP is participating in a study designed to see whether the procedure works. The treatment is not available to just anyone who asks for it, and it carries significant risks, since the immune system has to be wiped out before the stem cells are given. It is very similar to a bone marrow transplant.

Your sister's doctors could not "come through for her" because it had not been determined whether stem cell transplant would help MS and whether the benefit exceeded the risk.

From previous threads, if I remember correctly, you do not even know what medications your sister took, so how can you say they "did more harm than good"?
No I don't know the MS drugs, MS patients and their doctors know this. But I know she would talk about the HIGH COST of the new MS drug the doctors were presenting to her. Please SQ, I lived thru a lot of my sisters MS life.
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Old 10-27-2018, 01:06 PM
 
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No I don't know the MS drugs, MS patients and their doctors know this. But I know she would talk about the HIGH COST of the new MS drug the doctors were presenting to her. Please SQ, I lived thru a lot of my sisters MS life.
Then it sounds like you are basing your opinion that the drug caused harm on its cost.
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Old 10-27-2018, 01:47 PM
 
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Then it sounds like you are basing your opinion that the drug caused harm on its cost.
No, I'm NOT. I"m purely basing on what I believe on the on overload of toxic drugs to the body.

From injections, infusions, and massive amounts of oral drugs over years. She would not hear of the alternatives I had presented to her, but heard only the major docs and their drugs. So she chose her way, but the MD's could have presented her with alts too, but did not. She put her trust/faith in what they prescribed. To slow down the progression as she said, but in the last years it (MS) advanced.

On the cost of drugs issue, LDN is taken by a lot of MS patients, how many, I have no clue, but my friend takes it and it's very very inexpensive.

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Old 10-27-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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No, I'm NOT. I"m purely basing on what I believe on the on overload of toxic drugs to the body.

From injections, infusions, and massive amounts of oral drugs over years. She would not hear of the alternatives I had presented to her, but heard only the major docs and their drugs. So she chose her way, but the MD's could have presented her with alts too, but did not. She put her trust/faith in what they prescribed. To slow down the progression as she said, but in the last years it (MS) advanced.

On the cost of drugs issue, LDN is taken by a lot of MS patients, how many, I have no clue, but my friend takes it and it's very very inexpensive.
If you do not know what she took or what dose, how do you know anything about the "toxicity" or that she took an "overload" of anything? What evidence do you have that the "alternatives" you suggested could do anything for MS? Apparently her doctors did explain there was research on stem cell treatment but that it was not possible to prescribe it for her because there was not yet enough data to know if the benefit would exceed the risk.

Your last sentence again indicates that you think any expensive prescription drug is bad and any less expensive OTC product is good.

For LDN, at present there is no evidence that it treats MS. It may help with fatigue and pain.
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Old 10-27-2018, 04:12 PM
 
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If you do not know what she took or what dose, how do you know anything about the "toxicity" or that she took an "overload" of anything? What evidence do you have that the "alternatives" you suggested could do anything for MS? Apparently her doctors did explain there was research on stem cell treatment but that it was not possible to prescribe it for her because there was not yet enough data to know if the benefit would exceed the risk.

Your last sentence again indicates that you think any expensive prescription drug is bad and any less expensive OTC product is good.

For LDN, at present there is no evidence that it treats MS. It may help with fatigue and pain.
Oh have you talked to MS patients on forums or know anyone who takes LDN for MS support? I have and am in a group with a large MS population of patients and many take LDN. Whatever LDN does for MS patients and if it helps why not? The mounds of drugs didn't keep my sister alive as long as I would have liked but .....
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Old 10-27-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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Oh have you talked to MS patients on forums or know anyone who takes LDN for MS support? I have and am in a group with a large MS population of patients and many take LDN. Whatever LDN does for MS patients and if it helps why not? The mounds of drugs didn't keep my sister alive as long as I would have liked but .....
LDN appears to be safe for MS, but it does not appear to alter the course of the disease.

What did your sister die from?
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Old 10-27-2018, 04:35 PM
 
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The man in the OP is participating in a study designed to see whether the procedure works. The treatment is not available to just anyone who asks for it, and it carries significant risks, since the immune system has to be wiped out before the stem cells are given. It is very similar to a bone marrow transplant.
Right. This "stem cell" treatment is not a mere supplement-level injection or adding something to what you already have. It means killing off the patient's entire stem cell "content" and replacing it. Just the procedure necessary to get rid of them isn't a walk in the park; requiring chemotherapy and/or radiation apparently. The patient has to be strong enough to tolerate that. Until the new stem cells are established and stable, the patient is extremely vulnerable to infection....even fairly harmless ones that could be picked up from a healthy visitor. That means isolating hospital stays and extreme monitoring. Hugely expensive and risky. Candidates probably have to be carefully screened. I hope it continues to benefit him!
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