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Old 12-05-2018, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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This reminds me of some diet/nutrition "advice" I read in a women's magazine many years ago: get a small order of fries, eat half, and throw the other half away.

(Obviously eating fries is not healthy, I think this was if you needed a cheat or if you were stuck at a fast food joint).
Sounds like Weight Watchers! (I'm a WW drop-out!)
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Old 12-05-2018, 11:06 PM
 
Location: home state of Myrtle Beach!
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My late husband had fries with each meal. I knew they weren't good for him but he wasn't having any of that argument. After he deep fried them over and over again in our kitchen that grease would splatter all over the walls and ceiling and anything else in the perimeter. That grease was going in his body too; along with the tar from the many cigarettes he smoked. Notice I said "late husband." In the end his freewheeling lifestyle caught up with him. Be careful what you put in your body!
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Old 12-05-2018, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Kalamalka Lake, B.C.
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SO, it isn't just Standford that has PH.D. nutjobs unable to deal with reality??? Who'da thunk?? They don't call it the Ivory French fry Tower for nothing.
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Old 12-05-2018, 11:59 PM
 
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This is one of the reasons I never take these articles seriously. And when they come from a Harvard professor and is printed in the NY Times I take it even less seriously.
I bet you loved Tara Parker-Pope's columns (she started The Well section of the NYT) when she was a highly-regarded Wall Street Journal reporter, though.

Also, I find it hilarious that a lot of commenters obviously didn't read the article. He never said you "should only eat six fries at once." The exact quote is: "“There aren’t a lot of people who are sending back three-quarters of an order of French fries,” Dr. Rimm said [referring to the USDA serving size]. “I think it would be nice if your meal came with a side salad and six French fries.”"

"I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE..." is not the same as "YOU SHOULD ONLY EAT..." But in this day and age of sloppy reading comprehension and anti-science attitudes (how many people even know what epidemiology is and how it uses statistical studies?), I guess it figures that people would oversimplify and take away the wrong message.
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Old 12-06-2018, 04:54 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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... in this day and age of sloppy ... science ...
In this day and age the word "science" is abused and abused for self-serving purposes.

We know that, just as surely as we know that water boils at 212 F in just about every corner of the globe, time and time and time again.

Now, that's science.
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:20 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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I don't think I eat fries more than 3-5 times per year. But, if I am going to indulge, I am having at last TWICE that.
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:35 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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I can hardly believe that the issue is the type of potato, but the oil that they are fried in.

It is possible to bake potatoes without oil and they come out soft, tasting like potato, and relatively low calorie.

After baking, I usually put some dijon mustard - no calorie, some salt - and rosemary on them.

Sweet potato too, and they need no extra condiment.

Even yucca, but it comes out crunchy, not soft.

Hope this helps.
It does! I like crispy things, and I love potato anything. I'd probably slice them thinly, and drizzle with a small amount of olive or grape seed oil. I'd use sea salt - and I love the idea of Rosemary and Dijon mustard.

With the sweet potato "fries", I like to dip them in Greek yogurt, spiced with curry and ginger and sweetened with a little agave or honey. I might add a dash of cayenne for a sweet and spicy experience.

The yucca sounds worth a try too. Do you dip in in anything?

Actually, all of these are sounding better than regular greasy French Fries. And I would not feel any guilt about eating more than six.
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:33 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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The yucca sounds worth a try too. Do you dip in in anything?
The two stand-by condiments are olive oil & salt (actually all seasoning, garlic and onion power, and oregano mixed with salt) or dijon mustard and rosemary.

But lately I just eat the crunchy yucca right out of the oven as is, after cooling a bit of course.

It's the lazy man's way of trying to eat healthfully, but I've learned that basic foods from the ground have taste all by themselves, sometimes even better than after dousing or sprinkling them with "stuff".

Hope this helps as well!

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Old 12-06-2018, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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i typically eat six fries at once. Then reach for another six fries.
x2!
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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My late husband had fries with each meal. I knew they weren't good for him but he wasn't having any of that argument. After he deep fried them over and over again in our kitchen that grease would splatter all over the walls and ceiling and anything else in the perimeter. That grease was going in his body too; along with the tar from the many cigarettes he smoked. Notice I said "late husband." In the end his freewheeling lifestyle caught up with him. Be careful what you put in your body!
I'm very sorry for your loss. I really am.

Bottom line, this professor DID study the affect of potatoes heated in junk oil at very high temperatures and came up with an amount that in his estimation, is "safe" - but not healthy.

I'd say that no amount of smoking is safe, but it's so hard to stop. Which, is why among many reasons, I chose never to start.

For whomever mocked a Harvard professor for publishing this study, have your laughs. No matter how much the anti-health anti education crowd loves to make fun of well educated people, research universities, new health discoveries and healthy food, what you put into your body will someday catch up with you.

Studies that are in the format of "click bait" are in that format because they are used as advertising. That is not the fault of PhD's.

Click bait is not used to advertise higher education.

I firmly believe that there is nothing wrong with eating sweets or junk food sparingly. Very sparingly. French Fries are not a vegetable and no one should eat that kind of thing daily, or weekly.
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