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Old Yesterday, 08:57 PM
 
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This means that is contained in the bodies of millions of people. If these people ceased to exist, HIV would be no longer. As cruel as it may sound, retroviral therapy will keep this virus alive for many decades, if not hundreds of years to come, putting millions of others at risk. Having a low viral load, doesn't guarantee you can't infect others. There will never be a cure, because of the way HIV works.

By the time, most people who have HIV (usually people between 20 and 50) pass away, whether from aids or old age, the number of people with HIV may be massively reduced, the problem here is that the virus is being spread much faster than people with the virus cease to exist. All it takes is a 20 minutes sexual act to spread HIV, but it takes 60-70 year for a person to pass away. It will be impossible to eradicate. If anything, every year, more and more people contract the virus.

Since there is no cure and spread rates are significantly higher than people with HIV are dying. It is only a matter of time before most humans end up with HIV. It is only a number's game. It will take hundreds of years, but it will happen. Every person you know will have the virus. It will be very common. We won't be around see this monstrosity of a problem.

HIV is spreading a million times faster than science is advancing. It took only 50 years for this virus to become this big of a problem. Imagine what a couple of hundred years would cause. Almost everyone will have the virus and 200 years is nothing in science progress. We are running against the clock and is ticking.

People pray for a cure, but this very same people have no idea how HIV works. HIV is impossible to get rid of the body. HIV becomes part of your genes, that's why your immune system cannot kill it. In order to be "cured", you would have to get rid of every single trace of HIV. This is science fiction and it will never happen. We cannot even cure the common cold and other weak viruses.

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Old Yesterday, 09:01 PM
 
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Where are you getting your information from?

If HIV is part of someone's genes, then their children could inherit it; but many children are born HIV negative from HIV positive parents.
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Old Yesterday, 09:28 PM
 
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Where are you getting your information from?

If HIV is part of someone's genes, then their children could inherit it; but many children are born HIV negative from HIV positive parents.

And many are also born with the virus. HIV becomes part of you because is always there inside your body. It uses your own cells to produce copies of itself. So, in a way, it temporarily becomes part of your genes while is using your cell machinery to create copies.

The only real cure for HIV is to eradicate every single trace of virus from your body, as if you had never been infected in the first place. In other words, you have to remove HIV from every infected cell and leave the cells unaffected, as if they had never been infected. There is no point in killing the infected cells, because that's what HIV will do anyway. You would also have to remove every single particle of HIV floating outside the cells. You would have to remove HIV particles hiding in the bone marrow and other places in your body. All it takes is one single virion to infect a cell and make copies.

This is science fiction and it will never happen no matter how much science advances. We can't even defeat the common cold virus.


Chances are HIV hides in the bone marrow just like HPV does. We have no cure for HPV.
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And many are also born with the virus. HIV becomes part of you because is always there inside your body. It uses your own cells to produce copies of itself. So, in a way, it temporarily becomes part of your genes while is using your cell machinery to create copies.

The only real cure for HIV is to eradicate every single trace of virus from your body, as if you had never been infected in the first place. In other words, you have to remove HIV from every infected cell and leave the cells unaffected, as if they had never been infected. There is no point in killing the infected cells, because that's what HIV will do anyway. You would also have to remove every single particle of HIV floating outside the cells. You would have to remove HIV particles hiding in the bone marrow and other places in your body. All it takes is one single virion to infect a cell and make copies.

This is science fiction and it will never happen no matter how much science advances. We can't even defeat the common cold virus.


Chances are HIV hides in the bone marrow just like HPV does. We have no cure for HPV.
Your premise fails because the incidence of new cases of HIV in the US is actually decreasing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5315764/

"On average, HIV diagnoses decreased 4.0% per year from 48,309 in 2008 to 39,270 in 2013 (P<.001). Adjusting for reporting delays, diagnoses decreased 3.1% per year."

There are ways to prevent transmission of the virus.

https://aidsinfo.nih.gov/understandi...hiv-prevention

HIV can survive in surprising tissues:

https://www.iflscience.com/health-an...-hiding-spots/

HPV infects epithelium. If you have a source describing it in bone marrow I would be very interested in reading it.
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Old Today, 08:51 AM
 
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This means that is contained in the bodies of millions of people. If these people ceased to exist, HIV would be no longer. As cruel as it may sound, retroviral therapy will keep this virus alive for many decades, if not hundreds of years to come, putting millions of others at risk. Having a low viral load, doesn't guarantee you can't infect others. There will never be a cure, because of the way HIV works.

By the time, most people who have HIV (usually people between 20 and 50) pass away, whether from aids or old age, the number of people with HIV may be massively reduced, the problem here is that the virus is being spread much faster than people with the virus cease to exist. All it takes is a 20 minutes sexual act to spread HIV, but it takes 60-70 year for a person to pass away. It will be impossible to eradicate. If anything, every year, more and more people contract the virus.

Since there is no cure and spread rates are significantly higher than people with HIV are dying. It is only a matter of time before most humans end up with HIV. It is only a number's game. It will take hundreds of years, but it will happen. Every person you know will have the virus. It will be very common. We won't be around see this monstrosity of a problem.

HIV is spreading a million times faster than science is advancing. It took only 50 years for this virus to become this big of a problem. Imagine what a couple of hundred years would cause. Almost everyone will have the virus and 200 years is nothing in science progress. We are running against the clock and is ticking.

People pray for a cure, but this very same people have no idea how HIV works. HIV is impossible to get rid of the body. HIV becomes part of your genes, that's why your immune system cannot kill it. In order to be "cured", you would have to get rid of every single trace of HIV. This is science fiction and it will never happen. We cannot even cure the common cold and other weak viruses.
Cite credible sources please. Not buying it.
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Old Today, 08:58 PM
 
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This means that is contained in the bodies of millions of people. If these people ceased to exist, HIV would be no longer. As cruel as it may sound, retroviral therapy will keep this virus alive for many decades, if not hundreds of years to come, putting millions of others at risk. Having a low viral load, doesn't guarantee you can't infect others. There will never be a cure, because of the way HIV works.

By the time, most people who have HIV (usually people between 20 and 50) pass away, whether from aids or old age, the number of people with HIV may be massively reduced, the problem here is that the virus is being spread much faster than people with the virus cease to exist. All it takes is a 20 minutes sexual act to spread HIV, but it takes 60-70 year for a person to pass away. It will be impossible to eradicate. If anything, every year, more and more people contract the virus.

Since there is no cure and spread rates are significantly higher than people with HIV are dying. It is only a matter of time before most humans end up with HIV. It is only a number's game. It will take hundreds of years, but it will happen. Every person you know will have the virus. It will be very common. We won't be around see this monstrosity of a problem.

HIV is spreading a million times faster than science is advancing. It took only 50 years for this virus to become this big of a problem. Imagine what a couple of hundred years would cause. Almost everyone will have the virus and 200 years is nothing in science progress. We are running against the clock and is ticking.

People pray for a cure, but this very same people have no idea how HIV works. HIV is impossible to get rid of the body. HIV becomes part of your genes, that's why your immune system cannot kill it. In order to be "cured", you would have to get rid of every single trace of HIV. This is science fiction and it will never happen. We cannot even cure the common cold and other weak viruses.
It is abundantly clear from this post that YOU are one of the people who have "no idea how HIV works"
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