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Old 12-09-2018, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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What I’m trying to understand is why this is happening now. I never had this in my life. I always had a propensity to constipation and I probably have ibs or celiac disease I need to get tested but I never had acid redlux. I read that it can happen when the muscles of the esophagus or some other area weaken due to aging

It really sucks first time I had it I thought I was having a heart attack even checked with doctor had xray, ekg, blood work and everything came out normal but my bilirubin was high. My mom told me i was born with high bilirubin, apparently is a genetic condition some people are born with it

Is called gilberts syndrome

Could it be related?

The pressure/sensation right below your ribcage is the most annoying symptom of this. And every time I get this acid reflux, my nose gets congested for some reason apparently is related and acid reflux can worsen sinusitis which I have

I was going to ask you about constipation. I have problems when I get backed up. I've always had problems with constipation my entire life. Try to eat more fruit, especially prunes, and try to walk more. I take a tea spoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water every day and it seems to be helping. I'm having an upper G.I. scope next month to rule out Barrett's esophagus. I was on a high dose of Gabapentin for about three months, and oddly, I had no reflux symptoms. You're still young and it may be as simple as diet changes, drinking more water, and moving more.

 
Old 12-09-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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I have LPR which is similar. Hoarse voice, burning in ears and nose. Anyone else had nasty side effects from Zantac?

I’m going to try the vinegar idea.

A few weeks ago I visited a friend for a week. Coffee in the morning, wine at night. Not one LPR flare up.

I’ve read that stress doesn’t really increase stomach acid, it just depleted the prostaglandins that protect you from the acid. Sometimes it’s unbearable. Right now I feel like my ears are burning and my throat is on fire.

http://uthscsa.edu/oto/lpr.asp
 
Old 12-09-2018, 10:59 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I’m 34 years old. I never had this in my life but only recently these past 2 months I’ve been getting acid reflux/heart burn episodes. I don’t know why. Maybe is my diet but I never had this before. I recognize all the symptoms of pressure below chest, funny taste in the back of your throat, belching, nausea, etc. antiaxids don’t make it better at all. Lately I was eating lots of cereal bars like many times a day but I don’t think that was the problem. I was also using benadryl to sleep for a few days and acid reflux happened right after thay and turns out is a side effect of benadryl

But this is really annoying I never had this before. I even went to the doc and he gave some pills which I took and they help a little but of course have side effects
Any connection time-wise between the two bolded? Eating sugary foods causes more acidity. Try cutting way back, and see if it makes a difference. If not, get back to us. Also: add more green veggies to your diet. A big mixed salad is an easy way to do that.
 
Old 12-09-2018, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I was going to ask you about constipation. I have problems when I get backed up. I've always had problems with constipation my entire life. Try to eat more fruit, especially prunes, and try to walk more. I take a tea spoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water every day and it seems to be helping. I'm having an upper G.I. scope next month to rule out Barrett's esophagus. I was on a high dose of Gabapentin for about three months, and oddly, I had no reflux symptoms. You're still young and it may be as simple as diet changes, drinking more water, and moving more.
Dates are said to be more effective than prunes. I found that out last week after I ate about 6 dates or so. I cook my prunes often and I that is more effective.
 
Old 12-10-2018, 09:41 AM
 
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All of these "alt health" remedies are fine in that most are harmless. Make sure that if you have GERD, with Barretts, that you follow a regime of PPIs or H2 blockers that most GI specialists will prescribe, and have the regular follow up EGDs. Do they have side effects...yes they do but the alternative is not a pretty one. Symptomatic relief means very little and only biopsies at prescribed intervals can show if there has or has not been progression of the disease.
I agree, although having Barrett's usually implies longstanding GERD, confirmed by an esophageal biopsy. A biopsy might indicate only GERD, but also esophagitis ( inflammed), Barrett's esophagus or esophageal carcinoma ( of which there are two kinds--one of which which is largely dependent upon excess smoking/drinking, while the other is more indicative of excess caloric intake and being overweight/obese; the first type is slowly disappearing, while the 2nd type is increasing rapidly ..)
Treating symptoms helps, but ultimately it's not the answer. Continuous heartburn needs to be more thoroughly examined..
 
Old 12-10-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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I agree, although having Barrett's usually implies longstanding GERD, confirmed by an esophageal biopsy. A biopsy might indicate only GERD, but also esophagitis ( inflammed), Barrett's esophagus or esophageal carcinoma ( of which there are two kinds--one of which which is largely dependent upon excess smoking/drinking, while the other is more indicative of excess caloric intake and being overweight/obese; the first type is slowly disappearing, while the 2nd type is increasing rapidly ..)
Treating symptoms helps, but ultimately it's not the answer. Continuous heartburn needs to be more thoroughly examined..
You really shouldn't make statements which seem to be mainly supported by internet "stuff". Barretts can occur without longstanding history or GERD. It depends on the individual's cellular level response to the reflux. Yes, it does require and EGD and biopsy to confirm it. Barretts is not the same as esophageal carcinoma but is seen as a pre-malignant condition, hence the need for frequent EGDs and regular intervals depending on whether there is metaplasia or dysplasia. There is only one kind of esophageal cancer, the factors you mention are predisposing or associated causes. The pathology of the cancer however is the same. As I indicated, symptomatic relief does not equate to a "cure". The treatment for Barretts is currently long term PPIs (not a great solution but the best that current thinking has to offer) and regular EGDs, along with dietary changes and exercise to control the reflux. There is no statistical association between spicy foods and a worsening of the condition, unless for that individual, spicy food is one of their triggers. In that case it should be avoided by that individual just as they would any other trigger for hyperacidity.
 
Old 12-10-2018, 02:08 PM
 
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You really shouldn't make statements which seem to be mainly supported by internet "stuff". Barretts can occur without longstanding history or GERD. It depends on the individual's cellular level response to the reflux. Yes, it does require and EGD and biopsy to confirm it. Barretts is not the same as esophageal carcinoma but is seen as a pre-malignant condition, hence the need for frequent EGDs and regular intervals depending on whether there is metaplasia or dysplasia. There is only one kind of esophageal cancer, the factors you mention are predisposing or associated causes. The pathology of the cancer however is the same. As I indicated, symptomatic relief does not equate to a "cure". The treatment for Barretts is currently long term PPIs (not a great solution but the best that current thinking has to offer) and regular EGDs, along with dietary changes and exercise to control the reflux. There is no statistical association between spicy foods and a worsening of the condition, unless for that individual, spicy food is one of their triggers. In that case it should be avoided by that individual just as they would any other trigger for hyperacidity.
Well , there ARE two types--squamous cell carcinoma ( smoking/drinking, etc), and esophageal adenocarcinoma ( GERD/excess weight/intake, etc). The first is decreasing in the US, the latter is increasing, for obvious reasons ( every meal being supersized, etc.) I'll stand by this..

I never said that symptomatic relief implies that you're "cured". It does help with symptoms, and it just might prevent further damage to your esophagus. And when they talk about spicy foods/chocolate/tomato sauce/peppermint/alcohol/smoking, etc, they mean that MANY people have mentioned these as contributing factors, esp as they effect the LES sphincter, and reflux from the stomach up into the esophagus. Every person is different, but there do seem to be trends,and I can vouch for some of these foods myself, from my own experience.

I'm not a clinician, but I have worked in medicine for decades. I use PPIs, I've had more than one EGD, and I read about this stuff all day, every day. None of this is new to me. Don't assume that I'm just rattling off internet stuff-- I do have some experience here.
 
Old 12-10-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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I can tell you are not a clinician. No point in continuing the discussion.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 02:53 PM
 
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I think it does matter some, as it gets our body ready for sleep. I read about this a while ago. 1mg does it for me with my Inositol and typtophan.
I don't think it matters much if you take it an hour or two before bed or half an hour before. I take it when I go to bed because I usually read for 1/2 hour or 45 mins before going to sleep but I don't take it for sleep as I have no problems sleeping. I take it for GERD. I have taken it when going on a long flight to Europe but it didn't do anything to make me sleep. Hard to sleep in coach.
 
Old 12-11-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I don't think it matters much if you take it an hour or two before bed or half an hour before. I take it when I go to bed because I usually read for 1/2 hour or 45 mins before going to sleep but I don't take it for sleep as I have no problems sleeping. I take it for GERD. I have taken it when going on a long flight to Europe but it didn't do anything to make me sleep. Hard to sleep in coach.
Good if it works, then that's fine. I read this info years ago so I go with the 1+hr before I hit the pillow. I have my system and when my head hits the pillow I'm out.... No more travels for this gal.

You take it for Gerd? My friend has gerd pretty bad and we never discussed Melatonin for gerd. Oh I just found a lot of info on this subject, interesting on how it works ....I'll have to talk to my friend.

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